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X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::435 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:120381 Archived-At: On 15.05.2019 16:25, Óscar Fuentes wrote: > OTOH C-Mode supports M-; (comment-dwim) which is an standard method of > (un)commenting code in Emacs. Right. So why the other binding? > Pretending that every mode conforms to the same rules is > counterproductive, because there are vast differences among them. We also have different bindings for similar things in similar modes. > We > shall strive for pragmatism, not for bureaucracy. Sure, but I don't understand your negative reaction in this case.