From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A proposal for the future of open-paren-in-column-0-is-defun-start. Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2020 10:33:58 +0200 Message-ID: References: <20200405134735.GD5049@ACM> <831rp0siqn.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="16580"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: acm@muc.de, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 07 10:52:27 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jLjy7-0004Bb-BC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 07 Apr 2020 10:52:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43228 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jLjy6-0008O8-5H for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 07 Apr 2020 04:52:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50737) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jLjgR-0000V4-Vg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Apr 2020 04:34:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jLjgR-0002yD-3I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Apr 2020 04:34:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:38481) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jLjgO-0002vN-Bz; Tue, 07 Apr 2020 04:34:08 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1586248439; bh=eqgigfZQ8qySs1XYGH/dBI/t4ew+tYZkl5RzTXsflg4=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=WYzYaF+8egeBfH/w1O+laqkKiG5iSwstQ0DKBmu9muIq0JrepOoEGJfWM13JBQI4s d+B+CapRKbadyhY8vTvk1cwLmfaXYGsJSBvYmmk/0nZwQxDwPYE3ATmtXZl+jqMVlG CnITYeyGcxUY/cmVG2bQXhg4LkHxAl6EHcTqUT1E= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Original-Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([212.95.5.127]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx005 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1N3KTo-1jDeg11rwA-010Ovx; Tue, 07 Apr 2020 10:33:59 +0200 In-Reply-To: <831rp0siqn.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Language: en-US X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:CpZttkw8mp1xVMG745e50yxe2Phtm+6tq4SR7bW9276AGKd2BTi XV8dpuqxwTxjnlJykWeKumhc+kCheoFIeOZFvr5frbDUCKE4px1D7ntT8do16caJTnbc5NU FC001IBsahuPasYnFXEm3BbSsPPUTOVtkdgFTsRICaUtPxS1YUqbewTmBP9Co7rhPv8qPw+ y7s9rtrI7QsYhsZ6Ueg6A== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:egq769pzP5o=:XyjdGlgfXcYykpJ6QQ1LgT 9QV9opr5NxHMeqljbNSwFm5jAqimPvFSNLC+HkrvXOuUcorjzKGGiM74JgBZ5v/MP3/ltvdUu 6KF7eAXBmBoZSGeIT7y4aMsx8XYFqqeRVv44TxSEpxBTACj3PywkfGQKEDNNbQybqN7/AJbbo 0CttZeBYmeP4hbBl0W0iMItK0SYn6s6FdpfM3lUXj8iz0DdBTbLi4GxoB5UFxEkPXx3w0julA YurYO42ccWRJF+i+bP4WglueZREhmxdw90rnkxKqFND0CuqoPq3GssRS9pj8qNxMBKjwkHGC/ XPc/DmEQwJE/S8ISqNbUiCG/URbgPBGG2eMN2XFzbmRCuHoNb5PblOT2Ou/F9g9PpqjI8KLC5 glGcsPXN1vxvHiBTa3BXRu124NSG6V3pKrSUdCIWxYLw0zAmDgJ3FH9BhHDxaQgyexQUF2Hnp yvZHwGYpS3+i6a6LZoo4GrlRahCFJ/52tp3l7XZsVL8iS8dghHtFXLUpJ41E7KmskLfMXPL55 lieCgkMLoequoGj5LeB42JmYUI/Lw1qb3zMzsiEubZt5uooe5BFluqYqrbeF6WAzPhoQ6rT4C jIQU/wDC1ooHGK5vylz/jctgGuoJWP07F5/Mv4fgD89rIPYQG2x6WhFrTy+3YrzrRtnu8MP/6 aymjeC/l/sta8bTVqRRBJUEJr/6Y42yrpjeCGRZJASLgXLrYEL4VnYKNerHjHqqYnDZIq7JgF EK23NBOwy4Pkub4ilPg+Fe7EDQRLeTbEvAnVH1DKICeCBREruGmKhSH8qPZxpubVrUqQzcFM X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.15.19 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:246587 Archived-At: > Actually, we had a few detailed profiles posted which show many levels > below "somewhere in jit-lock", at least for CC Mode. When comparing -O0 with -O3 builds I noticed one additional difference with simple repetitions of 'scroll-up' in xdisp.c. The optimized build spent 25% of the CPU time consumed collecting garbage, the debug build 42%. Does an -O0 build produce more garbage or is it collecting slower? martin