From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#34911: 26.1; doc about lock file names Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2019 15:47:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="238387"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" To: 34911@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 18 23:49:15 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1h614E-000zsz-T6 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Mar 2019 23:49:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48566 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h614D-00008S-M8 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Mar 2019 18:49:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:60721) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h6147-00008L-Tr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Mar 2019 18:49:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h6145-00086M-QV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Mar 2019 18:49:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:35789) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h6142-00081j-IH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Mar 2019 18:49:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h6142-0000Ge-8P for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Mar 2019 18:49:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2019 22:49:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 34911 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.1552949309983 (code B ref -1); Mon, 18 Mar 2019 22:49:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Mar 2019 22:48:29 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49333 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h613U-0000Fn-T0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Mar 2019 18:48:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:45644) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h613R-0000FZ-7O for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Mar 2019 18:48:27 -0400 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:49250) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h6139-0006xY-Dk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Mar 2019 18:48:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59864) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h6136-0008Vq-7z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Mar 2019 18:48:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h6135-0006rC-AJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Mar 2019 18:48:04 -0400 Original-Received: from userp2120.oracle.com ([156.151.31.85]:36034) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h6131-0006ip-R8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Mar 2019 18:48:03 -0400 Original-Received: from pps.filterd (userp2120.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp2120.oracle.com (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with SMTP id x2IMcm7m081731 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2019 22:47:55 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : subject : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2018-07-02; bh=tV9wYfiVXUMCN3rzxNQPhWPQQ+ucFSZ3zB5THKjRjhI=; b=Ht9yfKIfdra+lHL7IrEBcy96Y20rdGm0GxN1kviwPJhbs3AahR2vfbch+Rdy/cVfjsYr lXI1PbJcatl9d49CAaiztl++EhDFsC8rbKkyC9IQVZoqVXOOaqsgE2pi6osmGN0lItcY v5X5rcIDDTOkyDGL6uV70Wnt6OmMHMx0E8QgBdFtclhAK0NhG29nXqy+j5qK8NP3h39J iD6iNK6c0eydKX7XEuIL1XmulWUxuQvMuwSUXv6DA9GpnE+pGoC8Gils9RUMjfjNZ7ad 943mlQzLL9XhZXnpn0oN4BrUu0GY4A2K3fnf7eaLXk7fA33TCKO0+rYBaS9JanA5aFQb Ew== Original-Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by userp2120.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2r8ssr99fx-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2019 22:47:55 +0000 Original-Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x2IMlr7J004446 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2019 22:47:54 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0009.oracle.com (abhmp0009.oracle.com [141.146.116.15]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x2IMlrDI029823 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2019 22:47:53 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4822.0 (x86)] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=5900 definitions=9199 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1031 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1810050000 definitions=main-1903180156 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:156474 Archived-At: I started from the doc of `dired-omit-files', which says: The default is to omit `.', `..', auto-save files and lock files. ^^^^^^^^^^ And the default value is this: "^\\.?#\\|^\\.$\\|^\\.\\.$" I can only guess that a lock file has either the same syntax as (the default syntax of) an auto-save file: `#...#', or that prefixed by `.': `.#...#'. In fact, it's a stretch to guess even that, as the ^\.?# doesn't necessarily match even an auto-save file (no # appended). I don't see documented anywhere what a lock file name looks like. I looked through both the Emacs manual and the Elisp manual. Did I miss it somehow, or is it defined/described nowhere? Please let users know what how lock files are named. Thx. If this is already done somewhere, please refer to that location from node (elisp) `File Locks'. Please also update the doc of `dired-omit-files' to make clear that its default value only approximately matches auto-save files (and lock files?), and that even this is true only for the default naming regime for auto-save files. In GNU Emacs 26.1 (build 1, x86_64-w64-mingw32) of 2018-05-30 Repository revision: 07f8f9bc5a51f5aa94eb099f3e15fbe0c20ea1ea Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.17134 Configured using: `configure --without-dbus --host=3Dx86_64-w64-mingw32 --without-compress-install 'CFLAGS=3D-O2 -static -g3''