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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com
Cc: Nicolas Petton <petton.nicolas@gmail.com>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: sequence manipulation functions
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 10:27:56 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dadb99bb-04b7-4952-aa63-29b5172ac7a9@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAdUY-Koaj0k-hSo=Jr5R3V26S20QEZrYPVUz=cjFcsRRRqm4Q@mail.gmail.com>

>> No.  Emacs should follow Common Lisp in this regard.
>> http://www.cs.cmu.edu/Groups/AI/html/cltl/clm/node141.html
>> #SECTION001800000000000000000
>
> Could we at least add the `seq-' variants as aliases?
> It would greatly improve discoverability.

Don't ask me what we "could" do.  I don't decide anything.

My own opinion would be not to do that.

If you are really worried about discoverability, then an alias
that speaks to what the function really *does* is more important
than an alias that calls out the main argument type.

`reduce' etc. are meaningful names to anyone used to functional
programming with higher-order functions, but they are not names
that help discoverability for someone not used to that.

Not to mention that the doc string for `reduce' here is not
helpful.  It just reuses the verb "reduce", without describing
anything.  Contrast the Common Lisp one-line description:

 "uses a binary operation, FUNCTION, to combine the elements of
  sequence bounded by START and END."
 (http://clhs.lisp.se/Body/f_reduce.htm)

(Yes, a one-liner is not going to make things crystal clear,
in any case.)

---

And again, we should, IMO, not introduce things like `some-p',
which overlap with `cl-some' in functionality.  Just have one
such function (for each such proposed conflict), and preferably
have it follow Common Lisp's lead.



  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-05 18:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-04 22:17 sequence manipulation functions Nicolas Petton
2014-11-05  1:21 ` Glenn Morris
2014-11-05  9:46   ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-05  4:58 ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-05  9:45   ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-06  0:54   ` Daniel Colascione
2014-11-05  9:23 ` Damien Cassou
2014-11-05 18:12   ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-05 21:59     ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-05 22:40       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-06  0:30     ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-05 15:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-05 15:36   ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-05 15:52     ` Sebastien Vauban
2014-11-05 18:32     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-07 17:35       ` [PATCH] " Nicolas Petton
2014-11-07 17:43         ` Daniel Colascione
2014-11-10 17:41         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-10 22:28           ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-10 23:12           ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-11  2:20             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-12 17:49               ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-12 19:12                 ` Bozhidar Batsov
2014-11-12 19:30                   ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-12 20:28                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-12 20:56                       ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-12 23:06                         ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-12 23:17                           ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-13  1:29                             ` Leo Liu
2014-11-13  5:21                               ` Drew Adams
2014-11-14  5:16                                 ` Leo Liu
2014-11-16 12:52                                   ` Bozhidar Batsov
2014-11-16 14:16                                     ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-16 17:22                                       ` Drew Adams
2014-11-16 19:13                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-17  2:52                                         ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-17 11:46                                         ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-17 13:53                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-16  7:38                           ` Damien Cassou
2014-11-20 23:16                           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-21 12:40                             ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-21 13:11                               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-21 13:28                                 ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-21 14:44                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-24 17:49                                     ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-24 18:01                                       ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-05 16:25   ` Drew Adams
2014-11-05 17:21     ` Artur Malabarba
2014-11-05 18:27       ` Drew Adams [this message]
2014-11-05 17:22     ` Damien Cassou
2014-11-05 18:28       ` Drew Adams
2014-11-05 17:41     ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-05 18:23       ` Tom Tromey
2014-11-05 18:29         ` Drew Adams
2014-11-05 18:29       ` Drew Adams
2014-11-06  4:39         ` Richard Stallman

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