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Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 10:16:27 -0400 Message-ID: References: <7b783a66-c101-9a07-612e-9392b4d5433c@gmail.com> <83k2g0oan4.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tMs9EpJUEbTQa4D1gfT3i5jAplkO4P8Lg" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1470061094 15951 80.91.229.8 (1 Aug 2016 14:18:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 14:18:14 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 01 16:17:55 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bUE2U-0003p0-9G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Aug 2016 16:17:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50614 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bUE2Q-00023U-EE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Aug 2016 10:17:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53346) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bUE1O-00021X-2e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Aug 2016 10:16:50 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bUE1J-0001Iu-N8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Aug 2016 10:16:45 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([212.227.17.10]:52411) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bUE1D-0001HS-EL; Mon, 01 Aug 2016 10:16:35 -0400 Original-Received: from [18.189.62.146] ([18.189.62.146]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue102) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LvSFP-1bKhj01tfX-010ZF3; Mon, 01 Aug 2016 16:16:33 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83k2g0oan4.fsf@gnu.org> X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:Z1rShG+Oc+BMYNLR1GSnNg+ZwrmxDRastqSPXiFlEXMv/K9O94X Ze2q1bl6ERwAcF99HOOCdqmjZll4i+uy+vTMdWeAAjt3qId/hkY1fMvaXMa/KcIlA9a2bgp 2BYPrFfKGQDd7H+OcG7s2FRh/Q4rNCYiBMEFe6HyUVteWqetFM6bRafpyTi6qU5FjdnE7Kj QUUiWd4jj66hX3OeCJ4gA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:QvHJS9EYPJQ=:NblvkpxtAkunOf1oQygXvS f6IKZVr4dHjgVUtDGqqt8ECt9qKBskXIY0U5TQWjDzSd25yf6TfglgaXmKfhcqCpjG6a6/MKL FR8kT1m6zcu1pOKpA1BJgMCKdptw5p/Es/ox1D6MbHGO4dzDvAtcEKgI+VKHq72cbNxgw6iEs NRm1yAy4ZtBin4yOm3pZpdlYcfDHXj0tbd4+cgydSqjbF/ZcbR+s/SqKHiN5XAPmvz0nIoHPJ Eym7ndhoVMgHW/NDud0MnZKsS1pmHS7KcK2asExY2yhNJZhN8G6Q7gVFswOC9I1mQulZNnPq3 oQrVSgOQi39WjWvdHvEiyOfFDTtYCdmX9VLvZKlsuADDoHCccwxHAewNGPT/kOpn5uA0+TxUn wV9OGsN7Jmg6n5LDmH3aYcliO8OzHi16DCHPLo8nD9P2mNDvtGT6TlhwTkLeWZ3BVdX3akOip 8KZ91Q0b53xa6ZZA/le0N9FzTWyic5iz3FrMC6WbPOW7i3y+e1X2I2uenWX3Vexa/uYh+FkEx o2PnwXc3MyyU9U+ZQZFaBe0O+gDTNtkSpFL9LZVRN6o90Ru86u/8TvYrt8tLpzflkzuKOH0eU YAF7jMpYGB9AWt+c9J8Q1515B8XFIi8q9GUcBh5XaTMp9qQIK0GjQgXADHqjmKf0GVySQDTfN IN8fJnMVlJnRylsXar0WzlS40FjgHU/AKZFKU3skPqdOmImpg2xKPwwrKUTZI5uWVFJo= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.17.10 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:206308 Archived-At: This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --tMs9EpJUEbTQa4D1gfT3i5jAplkO4P8Lg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="jQJDTjrvIFEtN2mS9BBaNXoHe2WA3ubVs" From: =?UTF-8?Q?Cl=c3=a9ment_Pit--Claudel?= To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: Should I report Emacs crashes due to ELisp infinite recursion? References: <7b783a66-c101-9a07-612e-9392b4d5433c@gmail.com> <83k2g0oan4.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <83k2g0oan4.fsf@gnu.org> --jQJDTjrvIFEtN2mS9BBaNXoHe2WA3ubVs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2016-08-01 09:56, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Cl=C3=A9ment Pit--Claudel >> Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 09:11:19 -0400 >> >> Or is it expected that infinite recursion from ELisp can crash Emacs? >=20 > Yes, because it causes stack overflow. >=20 > On some platforms, Emacs recently learned how to recover from stack > overflow, but that protection is not 100% reliable even on those > platforms (notably, stack overflow during GC cannot be recovered > from), and even if Emacs recovers we recommend to orderly shut down > the session and start another one. 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