From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Preserving old Emacs versions Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 15:33:43 -0700 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: References: <86r37cvltb.fsf@molnjunk.nocrew.org> <83twc8vkx9.fsf@gnu.org> <86lgxkvhm2.fsf@molnjunk.nocrew.org> <76bae858-f03d-4381-a35a-d0ccd9693f50@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1476916445 10198 195.159.176.226 (19 Oct 2016 22:34:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 22:34:05 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 20 00:33:59 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bwzQo-0001HH-Hu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 20 Oct 2016 00:33:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51453 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bwzQq-0004T1-OE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 18:33:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57806) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bwzQk-0004Sj-85 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 18:33:51 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bwzQg-00034z-7U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 18:33:50 -0400 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:45816) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bwzQg-00034c-1z; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 18:33:46 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 756861601A0; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 15:33:44 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id Fu3pRuCCknC5; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 15:33:43 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83C921601BD; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 15:33:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 1TDx8OXWvZYt; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 15:33:43 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU (Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.64.200]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6A1C81601A0; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 15:33:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 131.179.128.68 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:208512 Archived-At: On 10/19/2016 01:01 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: > We made backup tapes back then, but it is hard to read them > and I am not sure where they are now. If you can find the tapes, I suggest contacting the Computer History Museum . If they are DECtapes there's a good chance they will still be readable, as that is a robust format. Even IBM 9-track tapes might be mostly readable. I wouldn't wait too long, as the tapes will continue to degrade.