From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: David Caldwell Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Is there a sane way to type Hebrew with nikud with Emacs 25/Mac? Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2016 13:10:36 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1481056342.3486002.810530185.08361AFB@webmail.messagingengine.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="------------ms080309090206080708070103" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1481058717 24198 195.159.176.226 (6 Dec 2016 21:11:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2016 21:11:57 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/50.0 To: "Mark H. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:210093 Archived-At: This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms080309090206080708070103 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12/6/16 12:32 PM, Mark H. David wrote: > First of all, it's necessary to at some time have changed the variable > > mac-option-modifier > > to none. That let's you use the Option modifier key. But what that does is makes you not have a META key. How can you use Emacs without a meta key? I cannot really see having to use ESC instead of Meta in this day and age. You might set ns-command-modifier to Meta. The default is Super and maps to standard Mac copy/paste/etc. keys. I do know that many people like that better than option (the command key (=E2=8C=98) is also physically c= loser to where Alt is on non-mac keyboards, which I think is why it's popular to use for Meta). You can also set left and right modifiers to something different. Maybe that is something that will work in your case. 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