From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Pavol Murin" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Reasons for Switching to Eshell Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 11:40:20 +0200 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1206870066 29323 80.91.229.12 (30 Mar 2008 09:41:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 09:41:06 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, lorenzo.isella@gmail.com Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 30 11:41:36 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jfu2c-0000Fx-VF for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 11:41:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jfu20-0002M2-Qy for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 05:40:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jfu1Z-0002Kn-Rd for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 05:40:25 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jfu1W-0002Hq-18 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 05:40:25 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jfu1V-0002Hj-SS for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 05:40:21 -0400 Original-Received: from hs-out-0708.google.com ([64.233.178.250]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jfu1V-0007PA-HN for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 05:40:21 -0400 Original-Received: by hs-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id 55so840436hsc.10 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 02:40:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=MbEOe5TSFKVi0Pcvg7p10CeWDI25ElEGXSwvRW6tnFw=; b=NXdKTo1i9qgYn5M+fJRbQDQFMFqNxIERRzwCQvVkJzB7GHIx7tvMeClzqQT2vk0/RwwKfv7PKqFTQKFNpuzrckNX1NqZt/PtQQG6vbmGvFQIURgnSfACQzUPRCOWeQosAPzakvTJouolR73Faym0wRC9olJnBARRVzvxzfybAKE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ZQIWsy0zzty3UOWAv0+qyHYfrt0qnrqEpFSAT9ftqPCNdP9yI1+IO7slal5nTXnt34F8kl+uYnnJcW+ZzEay+inU6tpxt5aJ8GoZsOyFkMoEGNwZPNR1t3g1Qn5uhR0GJDTklurizH9UJt6xPqtwHd+W0y3uG/a+m4X2QrCz06I= Original-Received: by 10.150.140.6 with SMTP id n6mr2699578ybd.111.1206870020518; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 02:40:20 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.151.11.1 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 02:40:20 -0700 (PDT) Content-Disposition: inline X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:52824 Archived-At: > Dear All, > I am slowly discovering new features in emacs and I found out it has its > own shell (eshell). > Now, I wonder if it is a good investment to learn how to use it. I found > tons of tutorials online (BTW: any recommendation to start me out?), but > I am missing the big picture. > I suppose that eshell must be perfectly integrated with emacs, but other > than that are there reasons to give it preference with respect to .e.g BASH? > Many thanks > > Lorenzo Now I don't know if you are already running a shell in emacs - I think that is definitely a great idea. If for nothing else: you can search the output of commands and save the output of a command after it was already run. Having full emacs available in the shell is great. There are some problems - e.g. ncurses, but that doesn't bother me personally. YMMV. However, this does not answer your question whether it is worth to use eshell. I don't know that, I just use bash. If you already knew about the benefits of running a shell, sorry for wasting your time. muro