From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#18083: 24.4.50; (emacs) Arguments and (elisp) Prefix Command Arguments Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 09:12:01 -0800 (GMT-08:00) Message-ID: References: << <87oa8sm596.fsf@gnus.org>>> <<<75d42f7e-707b-44e9-90b1-9b5d04207961@default>>> <<<83oa8rvex3.fsf@gnu.org>>> <> <<83y47vnlse.fsf@gnu.org>> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1462036427 10593 80.91.229.3 (30 Apr 2016 17:13:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 17:13:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 18083@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 30 19:13:31 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1awYSQ-0004Ii-Vs for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 19:13:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59067 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awYSN-0008PQ-22 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 13:13:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53290) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awYSD-0008B2-DX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 13:13:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awYS1-00050F-Mj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 13:13:11 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:45874) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awYS1-0004zJ-Jo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 13:13:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awYRy-0001Qi-98 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 13:13:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 17:13:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18083 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 18083-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18083.14620363315439 (code B ref 18083); Sat, 30 Apr 2016 17:13:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 18083) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Apr 2016 17:12:11 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58211 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awYR9-0001Pf-LW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 13:12:11 -0400 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:29179) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awYR7-0001PS-Pv for 18083@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 13:12:10 -0400 Original-Received: from userv0021.oracle.com (userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u3UHC342030550 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 30 Apr 2016 17:12:04 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by userv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u3UHC3mb013642 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 30 Apr 2016 17:12:03 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0019.oracle.com (abhmp0019.oracle.com [141.146.116.25]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u3UHC2sC003000; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 17:12:02 GMT In-Reply-To: <<83y47vnlse.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6744.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:117392 Archived-At: > > This should not be about choosing to document only this one > > or only that one. >=20 > Of course, it is. Why? Why should we not document both? > > And it should not be based on what you tend to use or I tend to use. >=20 > Then how come you raise this, based on your experience? I am not, like you, claiming that my experience or preference should be the only thing documented. I'm for a big tent, documenting what you prefer (M-) and what I prefer sometimes (C-). Not because you or I prefer this or that, but because Emacs lets you use either one, and each is useful. > > It costs little to mention that C- also can be used, like M-. >=20 > It's bloat we need to justify. I've justified it. And it's not bloat, but useful info for users.