From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#18512: 24.3.93; tramp persistency file: incompatible with old versions? Tramp won't start! Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 04:14:47 -0400 Message-ID: References: <645389CC-2AA2-47CA-BE1F-72607DF8935A@gmail.com> <87zjduyctc.fsf@gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1411201972 1704 80.91.229.3 (20 Sep 2014 08:32:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 08:32:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: David Reitter , 18512@debbugs.gnu.org To: Michael Albinus Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 20 10:32:44 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XVG5z-0000sc-WB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 20 Sep 2014 10:32:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33795 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XVG5z-00061x-Ct for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 20 Sep 2014 04:32:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43474) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XVG5v-00061n-Fl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Sep 2014 04:32:40 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XVG5u-0006P4-LD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Sep 2014 04:32:39 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:54709) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XVG5u-0006Nt-Hk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Sep 2014 04:32:38 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XVFor-00018Z-Rh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Sep 2014 04:15:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 08:15:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18512 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo Original-Received: via spool by 18512-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18512.14112008914338 (code B ref 18512); Sat, 20 Sep 2014 08:15:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 18512) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Sep 2014 08:14:51 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46266 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XVFog-00017t-Pj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 20 Sep 2014 04:14:50 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:44122) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XVFoe-00017l-NJ for 18512@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 20 Sep 2014 04:14:49 -0400 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XVFod-0007B9-UP; Sat, 20 Sep 2014 04:14:47 -0400 X-Spook: SCUD missile terrorist clandestine kilderkin South Africa X-Ran: w("-Gg'/&/r`7an~=u2PpzV^"GJmYmL0u(*aorf#?\RKzU)2k(qoF)5uU>~4%CN,m0{AbP X-Hue: green X-Attribution: GM In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Sat, 20 Sep 2014 04:09:42 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:93548 Archived-At: Glenn Morris wrote: > We already added a startup warning if user-emacs-directory is in > load-path, for precisely this kind of reason. (Eg calc has similar issues.) > > user-emacs-directory is not in load-path by default, so the question is; > how did it come to be in load-path, and why was the warning not seen? And indeed there is exactly the issue with calc in the original report: >> Load-path shadows: >> /Users/dr/Library/Application Support/Aquamacs Emacs/calc hides /Users/dr/ae24.git/nextstep/Aquamacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/calc/calc