From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19296: [PATCH] Package archives now have priorities. 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Instead of a proper problem description, we get, directly, a "solution". Please prove the problem first. A one-liner stating that MELPA assigns date version numbers and you need to "fix" that is not a problem description. > This solves the "MELPA problem", where MELPA assigns date-based > version numbers to packages which override all other archives. > Giving MELPA a lower priority means packages are installed from > MELPA only when the package is not available from other archives. Why is that good? Why should MELPA be given a lower priority? > This can be overridden manually by the user. How? Why make users jump through extra hoops to retrieve packages from MELPA in priority? This sounds like a bad hack. MELPA is, so far, the most complete repository, with the most packages, refreshed dynamically and presenting the most recent versions of packages. Many users put MELPA first in their list of repositories to retrieve from. It doesn't sound like their use case is being considered seriously. Caveat: I'm going only by your description above; I have not looked into the code. It just smells bad, from that description.