From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15117: 24.3.50; doc of `(forward|backward)-*': state return value Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 10:26:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: References: <<1dc76f7a-5481-41df-b976-ec22229d7283@default>> <<874n4a42f0.fsf@building.gnus.org>> <<1281d0fd-77cb-45e2-b99d-f4ad24b0fc4e@default>> <> <<2fefcbaf-9417-4f57-93af-490ea73aea98@default>> <> <<68a64949-d801-4d09-8dc8-4b6ae0824855@default>> <<8361oltxu1.fsf@gnu.org>> <<67b917ca-8b69-49fd-9e12-68da310f7567@default>> <<8338jpttic.fsf@gnu.org>> <<5889df4e-4343-4136-ae49-4062659da625@default>> <<831tz9tsy2.fsf@gnu.org>> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1392143239 10084 80.91.229.3 (11 Feb 2014 18:27:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 18:27:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 15117@debbugs.gnu.org, lekktu@gmail.com, larsi@gnus.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 11 19:27:25 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WDI3H-00046v-EK for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 19:27:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35352 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WDI3H-0001e4-2L for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 13:27:23 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42731) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WDI35-0001dv-Sn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 13:27:20 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WDI2x-0000ut-4Q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 13:27:11 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:46624) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WDI2w-0000uh-Ux for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 13:27:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WDI2w-0003vr-DX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 13:27:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 18:27:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15117 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 15117-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15117.139214319015057 (code B ref 15117); Tue, 11 Feb 2014 18:27:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 15117) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Feb 2014 18:26:30 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47806 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WDI2Q-0003um-7S for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 13:26:30 -0500 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:43537) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WDI2N-0003uW-7Q for 15117@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 13:26:28 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s1BIQKa0014323 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 11 Feb 2014 18:26:21 GMT Original-Received: from aserz7022.oracle.com (aserz7022.oracle.com [141.146.126.231]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s1BIQJw2007295 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 11 Feb 2014 18:26:19 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0017.oracle.com (abhmp0017.oracle.com [141.146.116.23]) by aserz7022.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s1BIQJvc007289; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 18:26:19 GMT In-Reply-To: <<831tz9tsy2.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:85400 Archived-At: > > 2. I guess you want a separate bug report for fixing the other > > functions themselves, so they return something useful. >=20 > It deserves a separate discussion, but I'm not sure their current > non-values constitute a bug. There's nothing wrong in returning > nil. It's an enhancement request - or it will be: Return a useful value when possible, for motion functions. > In any case, each function should be discussed separately, because > the fact that the name starts with "forward-" says nothing about > possible useful values it could return. The set of candidate functions for enhancement are motion functions. Yes, each needs to be checked in detail. That should not mean that a separate enhancement request is needed for each function.