From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#31815: 27.0; Inappropriate use of curly quotes in `info.el' Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2018 09:28:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <80f28e80-65fa-439e-b313-5ad616ef0dbd@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1531499231 7684 195.159.176.226 (13 Jul 2018 16:27:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2018 16:27:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 31815@debbugs.gnu.org To: Noam Postavsky Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 13 18:27:07 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fe0uO-0001oE-9I for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Fri, 13 Jul 2018 16:28:34 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0010.oracle.com (abhmp0010.oracle.com [141.146.116.16]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id w6DGSXAt010758; Fri, 13 Jul 2018 16:28:33 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4717.0 (x86)] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=5900 definitions=8953 signatures=668706 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1806210000 definitions=main-1807130143 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:148491 Archived-At: > > I just got a copy of the control msg for this bug, saying > > that it has been closed (I haven't received the usual help > > msg for the bug filer saying that it was closed, however.) >=20 > Perhaps you misread the control message? I set the bug to severity > minor and tagged it notabug (to summarize Eli's response, which I > basically agree with), but I didn't close it, and looking at..., > it is not closed. I see; thanks. I didn't (still don't) understand the difference between `notabug' and `closed'. Is it wrong to assume that it will be closed if it is not a bug? > > The bug report was about the occurrence of such curly quotes > > in the Lisp sources (`info.el'), not about their appearance > > in Info files. So your reply does not make sense to me. >=20 > The curly quotes in the source are there to produce curly quotes in > Info buffers. We want to produce curly quotes in info buffers to match > the rest of the buffer content which comes from Info files which have > curly quotes in them. Your suggestion to restore the ascii quotes > would produce a buffer of mixed quoting styles. I didn't suggest restoring the quotes to non-curly in Info. [Though I would like it for users to be able to control whether Info uses curly quotes. We've been through that before: Apparently Texinfo doesn't give us a choice here, so, for example, option ` text-quoting-style' has no effect on Info. Too bad, but not everything is as flexible for users as is Emacs.] I suggested restoring them in the Lisp source files, not in Info buffers. The source files need not use the chars literally to produce them for Info, AFAIK. --- To be clear: I'm not even sure just what copy+paste gotcha I stumbled upon, when trying to report bug #31807. I think that other times I've been able to copy+paste such chars into bug reports, without a problem of any kind of unexpected conversion. See that bug thread for more info, maybe.