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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250767 Archived-At: > > 1. It's trivial to move a minibuffer-only frame > > off screen (and bring it back on screen). >=20 > Not in my experience. Not even for arbitrary frames. I think it is, at least on MS Windows, and I think on other OSes also. I just did it, interactively, using a command that moves a frame down incrementally. It just calls `modify-frame-parameters, changing `top'. That works fine, whether the minibuffer is active or not. Maybe you meant something different? > > Presumably, frame parameter `visibility' would > > also be usable for this, but it doesn't seem > > to have an effect on a minibuffer-only frame, > > at least on MS Windows. Same with parameter > > `minibuffer-exit', and same with functions > > `make-frame-(in)visible'. Dunno whether those > > are just bugs. >=20 > On every GUI I've seen so far > (make-frame-invisible (window-frame (minibuffer-window))) > works as intended. I call it thousands of times daily > whenever a minibuffer becomes empty. Hm. I've checked only with my setup. Maybe something else is going on there. (progn (make-frame-invisible (window-frame (minibuffer-window))) (pp-eval-expression (frame-parameter nil 'visibility) t)) tells me `t', with my setup. And the frame stays visible. But if what you say is true, then that too (in addition to moving the frame off-screen temporarily) should be an option for the requested behavior. > I use a minibuffer child frame all the time. It is invisible whenever > I don't need it, promptly shows up on any window where I want to interact > with it and resizes just like any normal minibuffer window. Great. I haven't bothered with child frames yet. Maybe show (or point to) your code for that, as it sounds like what the requestor is looking for.