From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs 26.1 release branch created Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 16:14:22 -0700 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: References: <83377mls4d.fsf@gnu.org> <20170919173511.GA19168@ACM> <83bmm6h8vr.fsf@gnu.org> <20170919180944.GB19168@ACM> <838thah71i.fsf@gnu.org> <20170919194356.GC19168@ACM> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1505862954 1986 195.159.176.226 (19 Sep 2017 23:15:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 23:15:54 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.3.0 Cc: jwiegley@gmail.com, Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 20 01:15:48 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1duRk4-00008Z-3X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Sep 2017 01:15:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45829 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1duRk9-0000HX-Mw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 19:15:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38053) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1duRiw-0008JL-Gd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 19:14:40 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1duRiv-0006d4-HQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 19:14:38 -0400 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:36734) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1duRip-0006W9-Vz; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 19:14:32 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F8731608AA; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 16:14:29 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id TuiILiQuGER0; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 16:14:28 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D38BC160AEB; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 16:14:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 9n7uEiQMo4Fi; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 16:14:28 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.9] (unknown [47.154.18.85]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B0E771608AA; Tue, 19 Sep 2017 16:14:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20170919194356.GC19168@ACM> Content-Language: en-US X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 131.179.128.68 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:218550 Archived-At: Alan Mackenzie wrote: > No, nothing like the attached. I doubt you'll be surprised at all, but > that fails to address my concerns. That patch was not attempting to address all the concerns you raised, onl= y the=20 part where you wrote, "it is not documented in the Emacs manual". The ide= a of=20 the patch was to address concerns where common ground can be found, even = if we=20 don't agree about everything. > My main concern at the moment is my belief that you have been and are > attempting to maximise the difficulty faced by Emacs users in disabling > curly quotes. Please don't be concerned about that. Your belief is incorrect. I don't c= are=20 whether text-quoting-style preference is expressed only via setq or also = via M-x=20 customize. It's currently done only via setq because the previous maintai= ner=20 decided to do it that way in Emacs 25, and because he and the current=20 maintainers haven't seen the need to change it since then.