From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13276: 24.2.50; apropos-variable Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 11:35:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <> <<87ehi1wfhj.fsf@bzg.ath.cx>> <<87pq1kc4eo.fsf@bzg.ath.cx><38E9A068A13749DC894603C55CC6D667@us.oracle.com><87a9sjkamm.fsf@bzg.ath.cx><87boczirs3.fsf@bzg.ath.cx>> <<87fw2bh881.fsf@bzg.ath.cx>> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1398105422 17585 80.91.229.3 (21 Apr 2014 18:37:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 18:37:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 13276@debbugs.gnu.org, rms@gnu.org To: Bastien Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 21 20:36:54 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WcJ5K-0002Er-2j for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2014 20:36:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50830 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WcJ5J-00049j-Mu for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2014 14:36:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55213) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WcJ4c-0002yv-QC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2014 14:36:19 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WcJ4U-00084L-2n for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2014 14:36:10 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:46213) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WcJ4U-00084E-0d for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2014 14:36:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WcJ4T-0006Ng-Jj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2014 14:36:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 18:36:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13276 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 13276-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13276.139810532824460 (code B ref 13276); Mon, 21 Apr 2014 18:36:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13276) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Apr 2014 18:35:28 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54370 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WcJ3v-0006MR-TH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2014 14:35:28 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:22785) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WcJ3s-0006MI-4a for 13276@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2014 14:35:25 -0400 Original-Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s3LIZLxe019427 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 21 Apr 2014 18:35:22 GMT Original-Received: from userz7021.oracle.com (userz7021.oracle.com [156.151.31.85]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.5+Sun/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s3LIZKaY023658 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 21 Apr 2014 18:35:21 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0007.oracle.com (abhmp0007.oracle.com [141.146.116.13]) by userz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s3LIZK0v029976; Mon, 21 Apr 2014 18:35:20 GMT In-Reply-To: <<87fw2bh881.fsf@bzg.ath.cx>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:88195 Archived-At: In Emacs, a customizable variable is called an "option". There is no other kind of option in Emacs. The doc refers to such as options, as do also existing commands and other functions (`customize-option', `customize-apropos-options', `customize-changed-options', `whitespace-toggle-options',...) Emacs 24.4 has introduced the poorly named command and face `apropos-user-option' and `apropos-user-option-button'. Please rename these as they should be named: `apropos-option' and `apropos-option-button'. Everyone in this bug thread, including RMS, had agreed that the name should be `apropos-option', but Stefan acted otherwise. This is a bad decision. It just makes things harder for users, by confusing them.