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Sun, 11 Feb 2018 17:24:03 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0009.oracle.com (abhmp0009.oracle.com [141.146.116.15]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id w1BHO1vl014005; Sun, 11 Feb 2018 17:24:02 GMT In-Reply-To: <5A800E8F.60706@gmx.at> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4639.0 (x86)] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=5900 definitions=8802 signatures=668668 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=812 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1711220000 definitions=main-1802110231 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:143155 Archived-At: > > Can you clarify the warning, please? >=20 > That when the behavior of 'x-show-tip' changes, > applications will have to adapt. That's even more vague - not a clarification at all. What is the behavior change? What kind of adaptation are you hinting at? > > If there is a reason to replace `x-show-tip', can you not > > replace it with something that is just as general? Why > > would we take away something that lets you specify the > > appearance and behavior, replacing it by something that > > just hard-codes properties etc.? >=20 > Currently there are no plans to replace 'x-show-tip' AFAICT. Let's not quibble over the word "replace", please. You imply that "the behavior of 'x-show-tip'" will change. That's what I'm asking about, in talking about "replacement". You also said that we should not use 'x-show-tip' but should use only `tooltip-show', which is much more limited - not a substitute for 'x-show-tip' at all. The question is, if `x-tool-tip' is not expected to be replaced, but it is expected to change, just _how_ is it expected to change? Will we be able to do with the "new" `x-show-tip', what we can do with it now, even if we must "adapt" in some way to be able to do that? You are being quite vague, it seems. You make a pronouncement that we should not use the function, but also that it will change - somehow. The real question is not the words to name the impending change or replacement that you warn us about. The question is how, after the change/replacement, to get done everything we can do now with that function.