From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Lisp reader syntax and bootstrap Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2023 23:57:24 -0700 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: References: <83cz16k2kx.fsf@gnu.org> <833522jwvr.fsf@gnu.org> <87wmzdjk6l.fsf@yahoo.com> <219844d2-ca07-30f4-4e2c-1b1df76d0fa5@cs.ucla.edu> <83fs60hnj2.fsf@gnu.org> <83cz14guz3.fsf@gnu.org> <83pm52dbzh.fsf@gnu.org> <87y1jqwhhs.fsf@epfl.ch> <835y6uct1j.fsf@gnu.org> <878rbpe7a3.fsf@yahoo.com> <87y1jka126.fsf@yahoo.com> <5a110245-9b1c-be43-ca6e-2d37d3cac077@cs.ucla.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------UMBKbx9SdiDglgi2yQcQEA08" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="40795"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.13.0 Cc: Po Lu , Richard Stallman , eliz@gnu.org, contovob@tcd.ie, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ulrich Mueller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 14 08:57:58 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qKCkX-000AM0-R7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 14 Jul 2023 08:57:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qKCk9-0007MA-AY; Fri, 14 Jul 2023 02:57:33 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qKCk7-0007Ln-NH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jul 2023 02:57:31 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.66]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qKCk5-0000hm-CT; Fri, 14 Jul 2023 02:57:31 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 840903C011BD4; Thu, 13 Jul 2023 23:57:26 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from mail.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id mYG17qtPqtzC; Thu, 13 Jul 2023 23:57:25 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60AF23C011BD8; Thu, 13 Jul 2023 23:57:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 mail.cs.ucla.edu 60AF23C011BD8 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cs.ucla.edu; s=9D0B346E-2AEB-11ED-9476-E14B719DCE6C; t=1689317845; bh=bGWSX5eyBrKR7yQ0ny2hnr4F96C0WanJFZSbXxiGUlQ=; h=Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:To:From; b=mlwPPVDtQCFckZwrbhiYctC5/kMH5ugzsvlJTzFTFIT+eO+F0yeJvhA7kbBJ3prck jYozCfbIksyZZL5107GY3L5Zdr5MgktMY9IcVej8WSVnST+mtCidcjVJ5phY2uPhGC L35Op3t6vnbV4b0OGPE1Crbx6T2aO6dH8siihQeYzO7I+SCHKSXFzBjG/UYv7/TM5d h5LUX8AKn2nidJB8UsOEMRiX3zqV53LJol224tAdi0DEC7dgzoiPRyOYl9C7ocU/rj rJVNZhN2WrhKZnl+B5MccPSQEDEt6kXgpP66r/bGzjFyfxY6EUyKzNetvgLxzpxPr9 4yAvXJni2wiWA== X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from mail.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id bCAkOc_K23W1; Thu, 13 Jul 2023 23:57:25 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.9] (cpe-172-91-119-151.socal.res.rr.com [172.91.119.151]) by mail.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 210703C011BD4; Thu, 13 Jul 2023 23:57:25 -0700 (PDT) Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=131.179.128.66; envelope-from=eggert@cs.ucla.edu; helo=mail.cs.ucla.edu X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.096, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:307852 Archived-At: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------UMBKbx9SdiDglgi2yQcQEA08 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 2023-07-13 22:05, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > Maybe some wording like "approximates positive and negative infinities > with the largest and smallest representable finite numbers" would be > more accurate? Unfortunately "smallest" connotes being close to zero. Also, I just looked at the C Standard again, and it doesn't guarantee that HUGE_VAL is the maximum 'double' on a VAX (!). Anyway, thanks for pointing out the confusion. 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