From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 21472@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#21472: 25.0.50; REGRESSION: (emacs) `Coding Systems' uses curly quotes for Lisp strings
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 16:48:28 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <d5cea045-91eb-4f41-b4d4-f34344ea21df@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55F86E4D.5030505@cs.ucla.edu>
> > This sentence:
> > On a decentralized version control system, push changes from the
> > current branch to another location.
> >
> > where "push" was quoted, is now reads like incorrect English
>
> Why? It's idiomatic English to talk about pushing changes in a dVCS.
> See, for example,
> <http://docs.telerik.com/platform/appbuilder/version-control/third-party-
> vc/push-changes>,
> which says “You push changes from your local AppBuilder repository to your
> remote Git repository.”
>
> > The external border is normally not shown on fullboth and mazimized
> > frames.
> >
> > Previously, "fullboth", which is not a word, was quoted to indicate
> > that it's not a real word.
>
> As I understand it the section is intended to define “fullboth” as an
> invented English word, which is fine: the invented word should be defined
> with @dfn (which quotes the word in info files), and other uses of the
> word should appear unquoted just like any other word. This is standard
> English style. The manual should not quote every use of a neologism,
> as scare quotes are not a good style for a manual.
>
> That being said, there were problems with the section: it did not use @dfn
> to define “fullboth”, and the paragraph defining “fullboth” was written
> awkwardly.
> I just now installed a followup patch to fix that. I added index
> entries while I was at it.
>
> > Many places have a quoted text replaced by @dfn, although there's no
> > terminology here that we describe or index.
>
> Examples? I put in @dfn when I thought the text was defining a term.
>
> Indexing is a separate axis. If the text uses a term that should be
> indexed, the index entry should be created regardless of whether the
> text surrounds a term with @dfn or with ``...'' or with nothing at all.
> By and large my recent large patch worried about quoting, not about indexing.
I do not object if people want to discuss other occurrences of quoted
terms in the context of this bug thread, _provided_ this bug gets
addressed as reported: it is only about _these particular quoted terms_.
IOW, let us please not lose sight of _THIS_ bug in some larger
consideration of other quoted terms and phrases (which I did not
initiate, and in which I have not participated).
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Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-09-13 15:45 bug#21472: 25.0.50; REGRESSION: (emacs) `Coding Systems' uses curly quotes for Lisp strings Drew Adams
2015-09-13 20:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-13 21:11 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-14 6:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-14 14:08 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-15 15:57 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-15 16:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-15 16:22 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-15 23:48 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-15 16:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-15 19:15 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-15 23:48 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2015-09-16 6:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-16 7:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-16 7:48 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-16 10:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-15 23:48 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-15 23:48 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-16 7:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-16 7:49 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-16 10:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-16 15:31 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-16 17:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-16 18:27 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-16 18:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-16 20:31 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-17 4:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-17 5:21 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-17 6:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-17 7:21 ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-17 7:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2015-09-15 23:48 ` Drew Adams
[not found] <<c7ebc07d-51c9-4d10-9238-d42b0b3845b7@default>
[not found] ` <<83vbbe9j7k.fsf@gnu.org>
[not found] ` <<661f3a80-cdaf-47f0-a096-4be744409150@default>
[not found] ` <<83pp1la58d.fsf@gnu.org>
2015-09-14 13:51 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-15 0:21 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <<55F83FDF.2070202@cs.ucla.edu>
[not found] ` <<3aa1fafa-ed4d-4935-8a3e-cae7d0842c5f@default>
[not found] ` <<83r3ly7rpd.fsf@gnu.org>
2015-09-16 15:16 ` Drew Adams
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