From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Adam Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: beginner el form Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 20:13:30 -0400 Organization: Ihug Ltd Message-ID: References: <7ebr7weqbn.fsf@ada2.unipv.it> <7e1x8sedm1.fsf@ada2.unipv.it> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1115241723 13341 80.91.229.2 (4 May 2005 21:22:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 21:22:03 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 04 23:22:01 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DTRJQ-0007Z6-Nu for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 May 2005 23:21:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DTRQl-0002oW-RS for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 May 2005 17:29:20 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed.news.ucla.edu!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeeds.ihug.co.nz!lust.ihug.co.nz!ihug.co.nz!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 24 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 203-173-201-97.nzwide.ihug.co.nz Original-X-Trace: lust.ihug.co.nz 1115194274 10508 203.173.201.97 (4 May 2005 08:11:14 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@ihug.co.nz Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 08:11:14 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: KNode/0.7.6 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:130646 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:26298 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:26298 Thanks Phil. All input-contributions welcome. I will look into edebug, its new to me. And sounds a little like the gdb thing for C that is so successful to this very day. So thanks for the tip, Adam. > Adam> As an elisp novice, I'm dropping into it from time to time, > Adam> and making progress with the elisp manual and introduction. Am > Adam> spending most of my other time calling cmucl as a listener > Adam> with c-x l and c-x c-e. The cmucl documentation is good, so am > Adam> having fun. > > My advice is learn to use the debugger (edebug) straight away if you > have not already done so. I normally write lisp into a .el file, > evaluating and debugging as I go. The use of edebug is great and saves > an awful lot of test evaluation, as you can generally see what is > wrong pretty quickly. > > Cheers > > Phil