From: jari.aalto@cante.net (Jari Aalto+mail.emacs)
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: RFC: comint.el - comint-highlight-prompt and unreadable colors
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 16:51:10 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <d52w5a8x.fsf@blue.sea.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: buotzw8xkpn.fsf@dhapc248.dev.necel.com
* Mon 2007-03-26 Miles Bader <miles.bader AT necel.com> gmane.emacs.devel
>
> Basically, unless you have a proper frame-background-mode, then _all_
> the highlighting in Emacs will be fairly screwed up: a large percentage
> of the colors used in Emacs highlighting only look good against the
> proper background type. Attempting to pick "neutral" faces for
> everything simply doesn't work -- it's hard enough making things look
> good if you _can_ depend on the background type -- and the problem is
> even worse on ttys with their limited selection of color and alternate
> font styles (basically only bold, and often not even that, works).
>
> So even if we changed the comint prompt to make you happy, the entire
> rest of the interface will still look awful.
However, the problem is not so noticeable elsewhere.
> If you can find a way to detect Putty/rxvt then Emacs could use that
> information, but absent that, I don't think there's any choice but user
> education.
>
>> Do you have in use cases where 'bold would not work?
>
> Bold is already used in comint. But for the real problem, see above.
Forgive, I wanted to ask if there is any cases where 'bold would
pose similar visibility problems.
(defface comint-highlight-input '((t (:weight bold)))
"Face to use to highlight user input."
:group 'comint)
(defface comint-highlight-prompt
'((((min-colors 88) (background dark)) (:foreground "cyan1"))
(((background dark)) (:foreground "cyan"))
(t (:foreground "dark blue")))
"Face to use to highlight prompts."
:group 'comint)
=>
(defface comint-highlight-input '((t (:weight bold)))
"Face to use to highlight user input."
:group 'comint)
(defface comint-highlight-prompt '((t (:weight bold)))
"Face to use to highlight prompts."
:group 'comint)
Wouldn't this work ecorrectly over variaety of terminals?
The comint (M-x shell) is the primary interface to work fluently with
the shell, so is it's usability is a high prriority problem.
Jari
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-03-26 14:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-03-25 10:53 RFC: comint.el - comint-highlight-prompt and unreadable colors Jari Aalto
2007-03-25 13:31 ` Miles Bader
2007-03-25 15:18 ` Jari Aalto
2007-03-25 20:11 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-03-26 7:26 ` Jari Aalto+mail.emacs
2007-03-25 23:43 ` Miles Bader
2007-03-26 5:12 ` Jari Aalto
2007-03-26 5:44 ` Miles Bader
2007-03-26 7:22 ` Jari Aalto+mail.emacs
2007-03-26 20:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-03-26 7:56 ` Romain Francoise
2007-03-26 9:24 ` Miles Bader
2007-03-26 9:34 ` Jari Aalto+mail.emacs
2007-03-26 10:05 ` Miles Bader
2007-03-26 10:22 ` Jari Aalto+mail.emacs
2007-03-26 12:17 ` Miles Bader
2007-03-26 12:45 ` tomas
2007-03-26 13:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-03-26 21:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-03-27 1:34 ` Miles Bader
2007-03-27 2:18 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-03-27 4:02 ` Miles Bader
2007-03-29 14:44 ` tomas
2007-03-29 16:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-03-30 5:16 ` tomas
2007-03-26 14:51 ` Jari Aalto+mail.emacs [this message]
2007-03-26 16:51 ` Miles Bader
2007-03-26 13:28 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-03-26 16:24 ` Dan Nicolaescu
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