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From: jari.aalto@cante.net (Jari Aalto+mail.emacs)
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: RFC: comint.el - comint-highlight-prompt and unreadable colors
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 16:51:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d52w5a8x.fsf@blue.sea.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: buotzw8xkpn.fsf@dhapc248.dev.necel.com

* Mon 2007-03-26 Miles Bader <miles.bader AT necel.com> gmane.emacs.devel
>
> Basically, unless you have a proper frame-background-mode, then _all_
> the highlighting in Emacs will be fairly screwed up:  a large percentage
> of the colors used in Emacs highlighting only look good against the
> proper background type.  Attempting to pick "neutral" faces for
> everything simply doesn't work -- it's hard enough making things look
> good if you _can_ depend on the background type -- and the problem is
> even worse on ttys with their limited selection of color and alternate
> font styles (basically only bold, and often not even that, works).
>
> So even if we changed the comint prompt to make you happy, the entire
> rest of the interface will still look awful.

However, the problem is not so noticeable elsewhere. 

> If you can find a way to detect Putty/rxvt then Emacs could use that
> information, but absent that, I don't think there's any choice but user
> education.
>
>> Do you have in use cases where 'bold would not work?
>
> Bold is already used in comint.  But for the real problem, see above.

Forgive, I wanted to ask if there is any cases where 'bold would
pose similar visibility problems.

    (defface comint-highlight-input '((t (:weight bold)))
      "Face to use to highlight user input."
      :group 'comint)

    (defface comint-highlight-prompt
      '((((min-colors 88) (background dark)) (:foreground "cyan1"))
        (((background dark)) (:foreground "cyan"))
        (t (:foreground "dark blue")))
      "Face to use to highlight prompts."
      :group 'comint)

=>

    (defface comint-highlight-input '((t (:weight bold)))
      "Face to use to highlight user input."
      :group 'comint)

    (defface comint-highlight-prompt '((t (:weight bold)))
      "Face to use to highlight prompts."
      :group 'comint)

Wouldn't this work ecorrectly over variaety of terminals? 

The comint (M-x shell) is the primary interface to work fluently with
the shell, so is it's usability is a high prriority problem.

Jari

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-03-26 14:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-25 10:53 RFC: comint.el - comint-highlight-prompt and unreadable colors Jari Aalto
2007-03-25 13:31 ` Miles Bader
2007-03-25 15:18   ` Jari Aalto
2007-03-25 20:11     ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-03-26  7:26       ` Jari Aalto+mail.emacs
2007-03-25 23:43     ` Miles Bader
2007-03-26  5:12       ` Jari Aalto
2007-03-26  5:44         ` Miles Bader
2007-03-26  7:22           ` Jari Aalto+mail.emacs
2007-03-26 20:59             ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-03-26  7:56           ` Romain Francoise
2007-03-26  9:24             ` Miles Bader
2007-03-26  9:34               ` Jari Aalto+mail.emacs
2007-03-26 10:05                 ` Miles Bader
2007-03-26 10:22                   ` Jari Aalto+mail.emacs
2007-03-26 12:17                     ` Miles Bader
2007-03-26 12:45                       ` tomas
2007-03-26 13:27                         ` Stefan Monnier
2007-03-26 21:08                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-03-27  1:34                           ` Miles Bader
2007-03-27  2:18                             ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-03-27  4:02                               ` Miles Bader
2007-03-29 14:44                           ` tomas
2007-03-29 16:10                             ` Stefan Monnier
2007-03-30  5:16                               ` tomas
2007-03-26 14:51                       ` Jari Aalto+mail.emacs [this message]
2007-03-26 16:51                         ` Miles Bader
2007-03-26 13:28                     ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-03-26 16:24           ` Dan Nicolaescu

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