From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=D3scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why Emacs needs a modern bug tracker Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 18:13:20 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20080104164454.0A4BD830697@snark.thyrsus.com> <20080104232514.GB2735@muc.de> <20080105122310.GB3014@muc.de> <478010B6.2030200@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1199639683 20967 80.91.229.12 (6 Jan 2008 17:14:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 17:14:43 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 06 18:15:04 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JBZ5T-0000HL-AU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 18:15:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JBZ56-0001FB-Cy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 12:14:40 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JBZ44-0000tq-5v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 12:13:36 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JBZ3z-0000ri-9P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 12:13:35 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JBZ3z-0000rZ-3P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 12:13:31 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JBZ3y-0008EJ-R3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 12:13:31 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JBZ3u-0000i0-FZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 17:13:26 +0000 Original-Received: from 169.red-81-35-77.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([81.35.77.169]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 17:13:26 +0000 Original-Received: from ofv by 169.red-81-35-77.dynamicip.rima-tde.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 17:13:26 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 28 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 169.red-81-35-77.dynamicip.rima-tde.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.50 (windows-nt) Cancel-Lock: sha1:+vUO1pbFEu5yn6PX5XqP691H7Fg= X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:86349 Archived-At: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" writes: > Óscar Fuentes wrote: >>>> I was thinking about this possibility and concluded that it is not >>>> possible to build a decent bug-tracking system using only a VCS. The >>>> reason is the importance of the user interface, which must be open to >>>> everybody, not only for the committers, as PROBLEMS and TODO are now, >>>> thus effectively dissuading possible contributions from the outside. >>> OK, VCS access IN ADDITION TO web access. How about that? >> >> Others just proposed such a system. I'm skeptical about it. So far, it >> seems quite limiting and for a good reason: > > I do not get your point here. Can you explain why you are skeptical > and why you think it would be limiting in another way? Because of this: >>>> Furthermore, a bug-tracking system needs a database and a VCS is not >>>> good at that. A VCS provides a filesystem to work on, not a database. A bug tracker based on a VCS wouldn't provide more that what we can achieve now with FOR-RELEASE, TODO, etc. -- Oscar