From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: About the :distant-foreground face attribute Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 11:06:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: References: <<"<87bnzo9cja.fsf"@gnu.org> <59B7E7FC-48D0-4737-B1BB-FFAC5BA9E07A@swipnet.se> <67166ad2-ed8b-48b2-a0f5-21ec02c5d572@default>> <<83zjn7r4z3.fsf@gnu.org>> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1389121606 17085 80.91.229.3 (7 Jan 2014 19:06:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 19:06:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jan.h.d@swipnet.se, cyd@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 07 20:06:51 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W0bzF-0002oe-Cd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 20:06:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42338 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0bzE-0003Am-5h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 14:06:48 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47280) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0bz2-0002zZ-QV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 14:06:45 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0byu-0001BP-1G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 14:06:36 -0500 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:18459) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0byk-0001AF-2h; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 14:06:18 -0500 Original-Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id s07J6GlB018096 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 7 Jan 2014 19:06:17 GMT Original-Received: from aserz7022.oracle.com (aserz7022.oracle.com [141.146.126.231]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.5+Sun/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s07J6F5P028091 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 7 Jan 2014 19:06:16 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0014.oracle.com (abhmp0014.oracle.com [141.146.116.20]) by aserz7022.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s07J6FPn004695; Tue, 7 Jan 2014 19:06:15 GMT In-Reply-To: <<83zjn7r4z3.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 156.151.31.81 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:167655 Archived-At: > > IMO, the implementation, and probably the feature itself, is not > > TRT. >=20 > Sorry, I disagree. I think it's exactly right. And what do you say about code that expects that a face's `foreground' attribute actually reflects the face's current foreground appearance? Silence on that question, so far. When examining attribute `foreground' tells you nothing about the foreground, and changing the attribute value turns silently into a no-op, I'd say that something basic has been broken.