From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rusi Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Boldface typing Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 05:55:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: References: <874msc30rr.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <92b37c91-f072-4132-a3d0-3fa38f140970@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1420034434 7384 80.91.229.3 (31 Dec 2014 14:00:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 14:00:34 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 31 15:00:23 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y6Jp0-0000J7-5R for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2014 15:00:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40271 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y6Joz-00039Q-NP for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2014 09:00:21 -0500 X-Received: by 10.50.88.67 with SMTP id be3mr49330622igb.6.1420034147550; Wed, 31 Dec 2014 05:55:47 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.50.142.37 with SMTP id rt5mr646171igb.17.1420034147458; Wed, 31 Dec 2014 05:55:47 -0800 (PST) Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!h15no33742676igd.0!news-out.google.com!qk8ni6425igc.0!nntp.google.com!h15no19738592igd.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=59.95.21.240; posting-account=mBpa7woAAAAGLEWUUKpmbxm-Quu5D8ui Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 59.95.21.240 User-Agent: G2/1.0 Injection-Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 13:55:47 +0000 Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:209514 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:101793 Archived-At: On Wednesday, December 31, 2014 6:53:34 PM UTC+5:30, Marcin Borkowski wrote: > On 2014-12-31, at 13:20, Rusi wrote: > > > On Wednesday, December 31, 2014 1:56:16 PM UTC+5:30, Marcin Borkowski wrote: > >> On 2014-12-31, at 05:55, Rusi wrote: > >> > >> > emacs does a rather poor job of word processing > >> > > >> > The solution in the emacs/unix world 20 years ago was latex/groff etc -- ie > >> > document processors > >> > >> Today, the solution is LaTeX (without the groff part), > > > > I personally could get more out of groff than out of latex. > > Also it looked more beautiful and the ps files were much smaller > > > > [20+ years ago...] > > (Approximately) 20 years ago, when LaTeX2e was the hot new thing, it > might have been the case. Prior to LaTeX2e, customizing your LaTeX > output was a nightmare. Nowadays, with thousands of classes and > packages, including memoir, koma-script, tikz, beamer and many others, > the situation is a lot different - especially with the very dynamic > community, releasing several packages/modules/plugins every month. And > don't forget the ongoing work on LaTeX3 and LuaTeX (though this last is > more on the ConTeXt side of things; ConTeXt is also being constantly > worked on, and is capable of many things, including native XML input, > XML/ePUB output, very good support for tables, images and columns - > LaTeX is notoriuously lacking good support for columns and wrapping text > around images). Is groff also developed at such a pace? (I'm just > asking, I don't know.) groff development is dead (best I know) groff images -- Hoo! Boy!! Good to remember that the DTP revolution centered around things like pagemaker doing images and text together. Does latex do a half decent job of images?? Dunno... I find it implausible