From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#12536: 24.2.50; Outdated emacs22 icons in repo Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 20:46:59 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87626xkay8.fsf@neutrico.pl> <50663D21.1010208@neutrico.pl> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1348879674 1328 80.91.229.3 (29 Sep 2012 00:47:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 00:47:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 12536@debbugs.gnu.org, Andreas Schwab To: Marcin Antczak Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 29 02:47:59 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1THlDq-000515-58 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 02:47:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52526 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1THlDk-0001Ot-S8 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 20:47:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39806) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1THlDi-0001Om-WC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 20:47:51 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1THlDi-00027W-18 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 20:47:50 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:51623) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1THlDh-00027S-TW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 20:47:49 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1THlDt-00085W-NR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 20:48:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 00:48:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12536 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 12536-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12536.134887963431032 (code B ref 12536); Sat, 29 Sep 2012 00:48:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 12536) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Sep 2012 00:47:14 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32936 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1THlD8-00084T-Gs for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 20:47:14 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:48263) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1THlD6-00084M-Qx for 12536@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 20:47:13 -0400 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1THlCt-0004K7-QK; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 20:46:59 -0400 X-Spook: anarchy Bush Wired national information infrastructure X-Ran: O{(Ph=jwAq\6u?@K\ss!2&O`@sen[(pky3&JR4OqHkpjhJD)v-P4)%=G]rm{O2\3VPu+,V X-Hue: yellow X-Attribution: GM In-Reply-To: <50663D21.1010208@neutrico.pl> (Marcin Antczak's message of "Sat, 29 Sep 2012 02:13:21 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:64999 Archived-At: Marcin Antczak wrote: > And then rename remaining emacs.png icons to emacs24.png. > > But this would also require to change icon name in emacs.desktop file. > > In Debian packages, these (emacs.png) icons are renamed with debian/rules > and then debian uses it's alternatives system to set emacs24 > icons as current Emacs icons (if emacs24 is the most recent installed). It would not be appropriate for Emacs to rename the icons to "emacs24", because Emacs does not install itself under the name "emacs24". That is a Debian thing. I don't think eg Fedora does that (?), they just provide "emacs" packages. Also, in the same way, when Emacs was Emacs 22, the icons were called just "emacs", not "emacs22", so there is no name clash in terms of files distributed by Emacs. I suppose the emacs22 icons could be renamed to emacs_old. They were provided for people who preferred the older icon style, buy I wonder if anyone has ever actually used them, so maybe they should just go... Maybe to do this properly the icons and desktop file should obey configure's --program-transform-name option? The rest is just idle speculation: I wonder if there is much value in providing emacs23 and emacs24 packages. Emacs 23 is not supported upstream any more. If you don't want a newer version you can just not upgrade it. How many other Debian packages are provided in "versioned" form? Eg I can't install iceweasel-10 and iceweasel-15, just iceweasel. How did Emacs end up in this state? We do try quite hard to ensure new releases are stable...