On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> This form returns a value. >> (file-truename "") > >> WHY? > > Why not? What value did you expect? I assumed nil. I'm not sure what I would expect esp. having since noted that: (file-relative-name "") ;=> "." (file-exists-p "") ;=> t (file-readable-p "") ;=> t (file-directory-p "") ;=> t (file-name-as-directory "") ;=> "./" However, discarding the state of my "least surprisedness", I would _not_ expect that file-truename would step all over the match-data, and where it does so not before first: a) Using string-match-p where applicable; b) Noting that it does so in the documention. i.e. as per `split-string'. > >> I just spent 2 1/2 hours in a break-loop three functions away trying >> to debug _undocumented_ behavior. > > Which part of the documentation do you think this behavior contradicts? > This part: (file-name-absolute-p "") ;=> nil (file-symlink-p "") ;=> nil On which systems/platforms does "" denote an absolute filename? On which systems/platforms does "" denote a symbolic link for a filename? ,---- (documentation 'file-truename) | Return the truename of filename, which should be absolute. | The truename of a file name is found by chasing symbolic links | both at the level of the file and at the level of the directories | containing it, until no links are left at any level. `---- And, this other part where documentation: a) Neglects to mention that this function invokes repeatedly invokes `string-match' twice per invokation. {...} (unless (string-match "[[*?]" filename) (string-match "~[^/]*/?" filename)) {...} {...} ((and (string= (substring filename 0 1) "~") (string-match "~[^/]*/?" filename)) {...} b) Neglects to mention that the remaining args COUNTER and PREV-DIRS are iterative counters for operations on recursive calls. Which means that where file-truename recurses `string-match' may be invoked more than twice times. ,---- Comments in the definition of `file-truename' in files.el |;; Don't document the optional arguments. |;; COUNTER and PREV-DIRS are only used in recursive calls. |;; COUNTER can be a cons cell whose car is the count of how many |;; more links to chase before getting an error. |;; PREV-DIRS can be a cons cell whose car is an alist |;; of truenames we've just recently computed. `---- It was only as a late afterthought that I realized that it wasn't _MY-CODE+ clobbering the match-data - as is usual : ) but maybe Emacs'. The realization was elusive because the recursion only happens when the w32 conditional which drops into a recursion predicated on the return value of `w32-long-file-name'. {...} (setq filename (concat (file-truename rest) missing)) {...} Why not mention in the docs that on w32 `w32-long-file-name' may be a more suitable alternative esp. as it is a primitive and as it will expand "8.3 DOS" short name aliases in the process. (Again, per _existing_ comments in body of `file-truename's definition). I understand _why_ the optional args have been left undocumented - they are essentially hacks which the user shouldn't rely on. However, I don't understand _why_ the w32 hack isn't made known esp. where the hack is applicable for user code and is indicated as the preferred solution... W/re the string-match vs. string-matchp doesn't the following accomplish the same: ;;; ============================== *** /files.el-p 2009-10-28 15:49:38.843750000 -0400 --- /emacs/lisp/files.el 2009-06-30 15:51:22.000000000 -0400 *************** *** 893,904 **** (setq filename (expand-file-name filename)) (if (string= filename "") (setq filename "/"))) ! ((and (string= (substring filename 0 1) "~") ! (string-match-p "~[^/]*/?" filename)) ! (string-match "~[^/]*/?" filename) ! (let ((first-part ! (substring filename 0 (match-end 0))) ! (rest (substring filename (match-end 0)))) (setq filename (concat (expand-file-name first-part) rest))))) (or counter (setq counter (list 100))) --- 893,903 ---- (setq filename (expand-file-name filename)) (if (string= filename "") (setq filename "/"))) ! ((and (string= (substring filename 0 1) "~") ! (string-match "~[^/]*/?" filename)) ! (let ((first-part ! (substring filename 0 (match-end 0))) ! (rest (substring filename (match-end 0)))) (setq filename (concat (expand-file-name first-part) rest))))) (or counter (setq counter (list 100))) *************** *** 930,936 **** (if handler (setq filename (funcall handler 'file-truename filename)) ;; If filename contains a wildcard, newname will be the old name. ! (unless (string-match-p "[[*?]" filename) ;; If filename exists, use the long name. If it doesn't exist, ;; drill down until we find a directory that exists, and use ;; the long name of that, with the extra non-existent path --- 929,935 ---- (if handler (setq filename (funcall handler 'file-truename filename)) ;; If filename contains a wildcard, newname will be the old name. ! (unless (string-match "[[*?]" filename) ;; If filename exists, use the long name. If it doesn't exist, ;; drill down until we find a directory that exists, and use ;; the long name of that, with the extra non-existent path