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[79.227.168.80]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e20-20020aa7d7d4000000b0044eb4227bf6sm2249016eds.63.2022.09.10.07.29.34 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 10 Sep 2022 07:29:34 -0700 (PDT) Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <83pmg39uim.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::631; envelope-from=gerd.moellmann@gmail.com; helo=mail-ej1-x631.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -22 X-Spam_score: -2.3 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.214, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:295127 Archived-At: On 22-09-10 16:25 , Eli Zaretskii wrote: > If the suggestion is to remove the code, I want to see some > measurements first. It might be better to add some variable which > would disable that, set it ON by default, and then see if someone > complains in a year or two. The latter alternative is fine by me. Yes, with an option, of course. > You guys all live behind very fast links, so forgive me if I don't > share your optimism. For me, the situation where I make typing > mistakes because Emacs cannot display what I type fast enough is very > much real. Of course, I have no idea whether flushing does anything > to that. In a sense, that's good news: you can tell if it makes a difference or not.