From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: bug#19822: url-retrieve: allow to fail when no document is associated with the URI Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2015 15:47:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: References: <87mwcmb8nx.fsf@violet.siamics.net> <87r3wz7h0e.fsf@violet.siamics.net> <877fxricgb.fsf_-_@violet.siamics.net> <87fvbfy8xv.fsf@violet.siamics.net> <87mw4ndny0.fsf_-_@violet.siamics.net> <87r3iawdyl.fsf@gnus.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1451087308 11132 80.91.229.3 (25 Dec 2015 23:48:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2015 23:48:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 19822@debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Ivan Shmakov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 26 00:48:16 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aCc5m-0008Dc-Ar for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 00:48:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36894 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aCc5l-0006mc-N5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 Dec 2015 18:48:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53115) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aCc5h-0006iL-Fe for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Dec 2015 18:48:10 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aCc5e-0002Gt-98 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Dec 2015 18:48:09 -0500 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:47078) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aCc5e-0002FO-37 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Dec 2015 18:48:06 -0500 Original-Received: from aserv0021.oracle.com (aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id tBPNlui2012194 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Fri, 25 Dec 2015 23:47:56 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by aserv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id tBPNlsSG026915 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Fri, 25 Dec 2015 23:47:54 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0002.oracle.com (abhmp0002.oracle.com [141.146.116.8]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id tBPNlsM4004496; Fri, 25 Dec 2015 23:47:54 GMT In-Reply-To: <87r3iawdyl.fsf@gnus.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.69 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:196873 Archived-At: > I think all these non-http{s,} things in the URL library should be > marked obsolete and removed. There is very little utility to them (some > have been broken for years without anybody noticing), and they are very > fiddly to maintain. >=20 > Anybody mind if I remove them for Emacs 25.2? 1. Such a proposal should explicitly list each of the "things" you propose to mark as obsolete. 2. Marking something as obsolete (deprecating it) does not imply that you can remove it. Normally (although I do know that Emacs is not necessarily normal) deprecated "things" remain, and remain supported for quite some time before they are desupported. And that means that their supporting code remains (is not removed). Or did you perhaps mean remove only from "the URL library", and not remove from Emacs? (All of this said, I probably do not care, personally, what you do with the unspecified "non-http{s,} things in the URL library" that you want to remove.)