From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 00:03:07 -0800 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: References: <83y3m0pv8u.fsf@gnu.org> <86608msw0h.fsf@dod.no> <838tdiet25.fsf@gnu.org> <87y3li4vh7.fsf@telefonica.net> <87efnan46u.fsf@linux-m68k.org> <86wp12qtgo.fsf@dod.no> <83tvw6chqv.fsf@gnu.org> <86shbprix7.fsf_-_@dod.no> <83608kck4c.fsf@gnu.org> <544c170f-99bd-c701-3063-c697296a30a6@cs.ucla.edu> <83po6rar9c.fsf@gnu.org> <83o9mabwks.fsf@gnu.org> <83mv1ubrlu.fsf@gnu.org> <83lgheb8n8.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1515052931 18987 195.159.176.226 (4 Jan 2018 08:02:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 08:02:11 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.0 To: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 04 09:02:06 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eX0TL-0003zD-De for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Jan 2018 09:01:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47794 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eX0VJ-0001tK-4a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Jan 2018 03:03:57 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53491) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eX0Ue-0001pq-RH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jan 2018 03:03:17 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eX0Ue-0002Re-5M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jan 2018 03:03:16 -0500 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:57650) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eX0UY-0002Jg-JP; Thu, 04 Jan 2018 03:03:10 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14416161592; Thu, 4 Jan 2018 00:03:09 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id D1xT9GNCCan7; Thu, 4 Jan 2018 00:03:08 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 231661615AC; Thu, 4 Jan 2018 00:03:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id m5KCBOPplS59; Thu, 4 Jan 2018 00:03:08 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.9] (unknown [47.154.30.119]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F2B98161592; Thu, 4 Jan 2018 00:03:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 131.179.128.68 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:221582 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii wrote: > If you > are saying that ChangeLogs are_never_ useful in these situations, > then that's a strangely extremist view I doubt whether anybody is going that far. (Hand-illuminated manuscripts = are=20 occasionally useful too, but nobody is recommending them for maintaining = Emacs. :-) Although the current ChangeLog format is sometimes useful, nowadays it is= an=20 unnecessary luxury because so much of its benefit is now available via=20 reasonably-effective VC tools, whereas its cost hasn't gone down (quite t= he=20 reverse, I'd say). And I say that as someone who reads ChangeLogs quite a= bit=20 and who appreciates their occasional utility.