From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Jonathan Lange" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: whither GNU Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 18:15:45 +1000 Message-ID: References: <200808220047.51963.jyavner@member.fsf.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1219392965 7144 80.91.229.12 (22 Aug 2008 08:16:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 08:16:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Jonathan Yavner" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 22 10:16:58 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KWRpJ-0003ee-Hm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:16:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52993 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KWRoM-0007MA-10 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 04:15:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KWRoE-0007Jl-RF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 04:15:50 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KWRoD-0007HT-5k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 04:15:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=41211 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KWRoD-0007HL-2r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 04:15:49 -0400 Original-Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.142.185]:17830) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KWRoC-0000jL-Ly for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 04:15:49 -0400 Original-Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id u5so217882tia.10 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:15:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=pNauQrSt1p86Nf0PK9Qq8v7GJMyCJ1aVCIjPk+EL2Ns=; b=LIjffAZFFRId36Vw7rIBWs3t/Li2GxXGdET95Hkim4lKqYi/keZ6FYt31Jh83dhecf i9XVPV6oY1L7J0RYjdH+1aP2zCJX4YAKPkRNGl2Tb/rUIBPkf3Dn2N2e3MulRKZ8ZYDZ cATe9ABu88fVy5mZiY/4wGYWlgKXutHYMucSc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=CfySHgI39kS7b6oQ2tH9YxDtt/mVXaLt+Sp2fJiZgquhcQUiti+TZpgq8Kgot1+wHo QccZrNPk5F1NFI5hCT/SRmf4ObSWw2VfEeRuFbiYNaJjkxpOl359wHui5aosIFtco4BL gnnj4ipr+BHVXhXQiwXcIHhOWJOoDBdo4uZT8= Original-Received: by 10.110.49.6 with SMTP id w6mr974007tiw.6.1219392945412; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:15:45 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.110.57.17 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:15:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200808220047.51963.jyavner@member.fsf.org> Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: b3bf7923b13fa8fd X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:102813 Archived-At: On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Jonathan Yavner w= rote: >> Juanma Barranquero wrote: >> That was pretty evident in the way bzr did get "chosen" as future >> dVCS for Emacs. > >> David Robinow wrote: >> Are there still problems? I don't know. I haven't used it yet. If >> you find any you should file a bug report. > > I tried using it, but it was too slow, even for my small project (only > 1200 commits of history, bzr takes many seconds just to show "info"). > I haven't bothered to file a bug report because previous messages on > emacs-devel indicate that the bzr people are already quite aware of the > speed problem. I hope Emacs doesn't drop CVS until after bzr has been > improved considerably. Well, the Bazaar hackers always appreciate well-filed bugs =97 particularly those that include profiling information. And since pretty much every release includes performance improvements, it's worth filing a bug so you get notified when we fix *that* speed problem. (Like most other complex applications, Bazaar's got a few of them.) Also, your particular bug interests me. :) jml