From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Riley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Handling mail Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 12:44:14 +0200 Organization: aich tea tea pea dicky riley dot net Message-ID: References: <19998.64601.266213.844826@phoenix.squirrel.nl> Reply-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1310726717 27334 80.91.229.12 (15 Jul 2011 10:45:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:45:17 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 15 12:45:14 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhftP-0004HJ-Tw for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 12:45:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47664 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QhftO-00066a-Pz for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 06:45:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:48936) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QhfrP-000656-2R for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 06:43:10 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QhfrK-0007td-SW for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 06:43:06 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:53414) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QhfrK-0007tR-BK for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 06:43:02 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhfrI-00039P-Kb for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 12:43:00 +0200 Original-Received: from 85.183.18.158 ([85.183.18.158]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 12:43:00 +0200 Original-Received: from rileyrg by 85.183.18.158 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 12:43:00 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 24 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 85.183.18.158 Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:PjRBoSmxKjWAkNafTYmeATpbwXM= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:81595 Archived-At: Johan Vromans writes: > After having used GNU/Emacs+VM for 20-odd years I wonder: is it still > viable to use Emacs to handle modern mail? > > Most mail and mail-related packages (e.g. VM, BBDB, MailCrypt, WL) > seem to be outdated and unmaintained for years. Many problems exist > with multi-media mail, Unicode, and so on. > > Gnus seems to be the only package that is up-to-date (I use it for > reading news and mailing lists), however I've never been able to live > with it as a news reader. I'm very hooked to VM's virtual folders. > My dearest wish is to continue using Emacs for mail but currently this > feels like a dead end. > > What are your ideas and suggestions? That you try using it for email. It works fine IMO. Gnus IMAP suport has greatly improved. As for News, I find its way and above better than any other news reader I have used - that and the convenience of the "emacs world" being there at my fingertips offsets any benefits of using an html type/gui front end. Yes, configuring it is a nightmare for many. But when done its great.