From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hendrik Sattler Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Compiling Emacs with GTK Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 12:49:46 +0100 Organization: T-Online Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1109246663 1462 80.91.229.2 (24 Feb 2005 12:04:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 12:04:23 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 24 13:04:23 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D4Hj8-0005jf-Cl for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 13:04:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D4I0f-0004XN-Vf for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 07:22:26 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsmm00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news.t-online.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 21 Original-X-Trace: news.t-online.com 1109245786 02 4299 vQXFrS+lkLhqqHw 050224 11:49:46 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet-abuse@t-online.de X-ID: VOQcCrZBgeDcf76jPMCmziwWG-Orjri1sSRHTC7Mk9bxFCjEuxNx4X User-Agent: KNode/0.8.2 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:128771 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:24308 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:24308 David Kastrup wrote: > And that's because the ergonomics of almost all toolkit scrollbars > suck. > > To change the direction of moving, I have to move the mouse.  I can't > control the size of the move except by dragging (a recipe for RSI). > When scrolling in one direction repeatedly, the moment the scroll > "thumbmark" gyrates under the mouse cursor, it stops working. Mouse wheels are a great invention. Instead of mouse1/mouse2 to scroll, you use scroll_up/scroll_down, nothing is more intuitive than that. And at least with QT, you can use that on a horizontal scrollbar, too, if you place the mouse cursor over it. Some mice offer a real button instead of the wheel (I like this even better). And since this is about a text editor: PgUp/PgDown exist ;) HS