From: Konstantin Kharlamov <hi-angel@yandex.ru>
To: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, ams@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: contributing to Emacs
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2023 13:04:32 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <cfd470109b1e914243e3aee5357fea2f9ff5de63.camel@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87edm99l6g.fsf@yahoo.com>
On Sun, 2023-06-18 at 17:25 +0800, Po Lu wrote:
> Konstantin Kharlamov <hi-angel@yandex.ru> writes:
>
> > The point is not (in)ability to read. The point is the additional
> > mental load from the many additional actions that are needed to
> > contribute.
>
> That effort is minimal, compared to the effort it takes to write the
> code.
These two are uncomparable. The "effort to write the code" is something people
often feel joy in doing. Whereas effort related to pushing your changes upstream
is just something necessary. You need to go through it, but it's usually not
something people enjoy doing.
And to make sure we're on the same page: note that I do not say "sending
patches" section alone is problematic (also below there's a discussion on
possible improvement to it), my point is there lots of such "unnecessary stuff",
which accumulates.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-06-18 10:04 UTC|newest]
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2023-06-16 11:20 Android port of Emacs Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-16 13:03 ` Po Lu
2023-06-16 13:17 ` Po Lu
2023-06-16 15:16 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-16 15:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-16 16:34 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-16 19:34 ` Bob Rogers
2023-06-16 23:46 ` Po Lu
2023-06-18 2:10 ` Richard Stallman
2023-06-17 0:49 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-17 6:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-17 9:28 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-17 13:34 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-17 16:47 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-06-17 18:11 ` contributing to Emacs Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-17 18:36 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-06-17 19:39 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-17 21:00 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-06-17 21:10 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-17 21:19 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-06-17 21:26 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-17 22:25 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-06-17 22:39 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 5:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 8:53 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 9:01 ` Po Lu
2023-06-18 9:23 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 9:25 ` Po Lu
2023-06-18 10:04 ` Konstantin Kharlamov [this message]
2023-06-18 10:07 ` Po Lu
2023-06-18 9:57 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-06-18 9:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 9:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 9:21 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 12:00 ` Michael Albinus
2023-06-18 13:29 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-06-18 22:46 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-19 2:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 9:18 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 9:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 21:16 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-06-18 10:00 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-06-18 10:15 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 10:22 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-06-23 6:49 ` Sean Whitton
2023-06-24 15:37 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-06-25 7:40 ` Sean Whitton
2023-06-25 11:32 ` Setting 'vc-default-patch-addressee' in .dir-locals.el Philip Kaludercic
2023-06-18 12:13 ` contributing to Emacs Po Lu
2023-06-18 12:26 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 13:43 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-06-18 14:57 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-18 16:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 18:52 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-18 19:10 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-06-18 19:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 20:10 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-19 2:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-19 6:05 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-19 18:07 ` David Masterson
2023-06-19 18:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-19 21:29 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-19 22:49 ` David Masterson
2023-06-20 11:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-20 15:45 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-20 16:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-20 16:32 ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-06-20 16:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-20 19:49 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-24 1:44 ` Björn Bidar
2023-06-24 3:10 ` Po Lu
2023-06-24 7:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-24 7:54 ` Michael Albinus
2023-06-25 2:25 ` Richard Stallman
2023-06-25 16:41 ` Corwin Brust
2023-06-25 23:31 ` Björn Bidar
2023-06-26 16:47 ` Ian Kelling
2023-06-27 11:08 ` Yuchen Pei
2023-06-27 13:52 ` Corwin Brust
2023-06-28 4:33 ` Björn Bidar
2023-06-29 3:03 ` Richard Stallman
2023-07-03 2:32 ` Björn Bidar
2023-07-03 4:25 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-07-05 2:07 ` Richard Stallman
2023-07-04 1:58 ` Richard Stallman
2023-07-05 13:19 ` Yuchen Pei
2023-07-09 2:53 ` Richard Stallman
2023-06-27 1:05 ` Richard Stallman
2023-06-28 2:18 ` Richard Stallman
2023-06-20 16:24 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-06-20 16:33 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-19 22:47 ` David Masterson
2023-06-20 1:17 ` Po Lu
2023-06-20 2:24 ` David Masterson
2023-06-20 7:01 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-06-21 0:51 ` Richard Stallman
2023-06-21 4:13 ` Po Lu
2023-06-21 4:23 ` David Masterson
2023-06-23 1:47 ` Richard Stallman
2023-06-23 2:28 ` Po Lu
2023-06-25 2:25 ` Richard Stallman
2023-06-20 11:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 8:34 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-06-18 8:58 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 0:50 ` Po Lu
2023-06-20 2:55 ` Richard Stallman
2023-06-20 3:39 ` Po Lu
2023-06-21 9:20 ` Gregory Heytings
2023-06-22 1:56 ` Richard Stallman
2023-06-22 2:23 ` Po Lu
2023-06-22 7:47 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-06-22 7:59 ` Po Lu
2023-06-22 8:38 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-20 11:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-17 21:44 ` chad
2023-06-18 9:26 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-18 10:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 10:30 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-18 10:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 11:00 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-18 10:57 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 8:59 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-18 9:30 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 9:34 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 9:56 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 10:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2023-06-18 10:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 10:27 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 10:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 10:44 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
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2023-06-18 12:24 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 15:20 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
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2023-06-18 11:11 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 12:10 ` Po Lu
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2023-06-18 10:12 ` Po Lu
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