From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Upcoming loss of usability of Emacs source files and Emacs. Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 10:44:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <20150615142237.GA3517@acm.fritz.box> <21886.63821.737412.422567@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1434390287 16924 80.91.229.3 (15 Jun 2015 17:44:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 17:44:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ulrich Mueller , Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 15 19:44:35 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4YR1-0003ZM-3G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 19:44:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35790 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4YR0-0007FH-Eh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 13:44:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42573) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4YQv-0007C9-1h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 13:44:29 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4YQr-0002fU-Ru for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 13:44:28 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:36386) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4YQr-0002fM-EL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 13:44:25 -0400 Original-Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id t5FHiKEc010126 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 15 Jun 2015 17:44:20 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t5FHiJx2021651 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 15 Jun 2015 17:44:20 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0015.oracle.com (abhmp0015.oracle.com [141.146.116.21]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t5FHiJ1t024356; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 17:44:19 GMT In-Reply-To: <21886.63821.737412.422567@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.69 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:187190 Archived-At: > U+0060 shouldn't be used as a quote character, for the simple reason > that it isn't one. U+0060 is uniquely defined as the GRAVE ACCENT > character, and as such it doesn't form a pair with U+0027 > APOSTROPHE. > (It forms a pair with U+00B4 ACUTE ACCENT: `=C2=B4 but the latter is > outside of the ASCII range, and of course both are unsuitable as > quotes.) >=20 > So please get rid of U+0060 in all places where it is (ab)used as > a quote character rather sooner than later, and use =E2=80=98=E2=80=99 (U= +2018 > U+2019) instead. And if an ASCII-only alternative is needed, it > should be either '' or "". `...' is not quoting. ` and ' are not used as quote chars. That is apparently one of the misconceptions underlying this misguided "reform".