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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Radon Rosborough <radon.neon@gmail.com>,
	emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Cc: Noam Postavsky <npostavs@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH] Various fixes for early init file changes
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 10:02:58 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cd9d3a74-c7ef-4684-ba08-99f48640d69e@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADB4rJGH2c9s5MZ6kLtBx+TkMxL+JFR1kXTBFMmATMdzC-Augg@mail.gmail.com>

> >> Then I realized that novice users should not be suppressing this
> >> warning, and should instead be taking the extra call to
> >> `package-initialize' out of their init-files.
> >
> > Hmm, in light of this, should we abandon the idea of adding buttons in
> > *Warning* buffers allowing people to easily suppress warnings? Or are
> > there other use cases?
> 
> I'm honestly not sure. I like the idea of making *Warnings* more
> user-friendly, because that seems like a good step towards
> modernization. However, I do think that there shouldn't be any easily
> accessible way to turn off this one particular warning, since
> otherwise I can guarantee a lot of people are going to use it instead
> of fixing the (important) problem.
> 
> Maybe as a compromise there could be a way to mark a warning so that a
> disable button isn't shown for it?

IMO:

Disabling should be easy for anyone, including novices.

However, clicking a disable-warning button can display an
explanation of the warning and say why you might NOT want
to disable it.  Confirmation can then be required.

IOW, (1) make it easy, but (2) require confirmation and
(3) provide explanation of what's involved.

The idea is to teach, not inhibit, and then let users decide.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-03-19 17:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-03  5:31 [PATCH] Various fixes for early init file changes Radon Rosborough
2018-03-03 17:26 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-03 18:02   ` Radon Rosborough
2018-03-09  1:30 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-03-09  6:07   ` Radon Rosborough
2018-03-09 13:16     ` Noam Postavsky
2018-03-19  8:46     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-19 10:06     ` Robert Pluim
2018-03-19 16:20       ` Radon Rosborough
2018-03-19 16:29         ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-19 16:34           ` Radon Rosborough
2018-03-19 16:38             ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-19 20:14               ` Radon Rosborough
2018-03-19 17:02         ` Drew Adams [this message]
2018-03-19 20:16           ` Radon Rosborough
2018-03-19 22:14             ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-20  5:44               ` Radon Rosborough
2018-03-20  5:53                 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-03-20 16:08                 ` Andy Moreton
2018-03-20 16:36                   ` Radon Rosborough
2018-03-20 16:42                     ` Robert Pluim
2018-03-20 19:44                       ` Radon Rosborough
2018-03-21  9:00                         ` Robert Pluim

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