From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xah Lee Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: emacs 24: cursor shape is now i Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 18:54:14 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1336442715 20978 80.91.229.3 (8 May 2012 02:05:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 02:05:15 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 08 04:05:15 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SRZnc-0007wy-M8 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 May 2012 04:05:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43789 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SRZnb-0004tU-P8 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 May 2012 22:05:11 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!s10g2000pbc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 70 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 76.126.112.84 Original-X-Trace: posting.google.com 1336442491 22788 127.0.0.1 (8 May 2012 02:01:31 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 02:01:31 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: s10g2000pbc.googlegroups.com; posting-host=76.126.112.84; posting-account=bRPKjQoAAACxZsR8_VPXCX27T2YcsyMA User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/535.19 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/18.0.1025.168 Safari/535.19,gzip(gfe) Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:192356 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:84764 Archived-At: On May 7, 11:32=A0am, "Drew Adams" wrote: > > GNU Emacs 24.1.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7601) of 2012-04-23 on MARVIN > > started with -Q. > > I tried with this, which is pretty close, if not identical: > > In GNU Emacs 24.1.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) > =A0of 2012-04-23 on MARVIN > Bzr revision: 108006 > agustin.mar...@hispalinux.es-20120423103325-xmra3329elgzhmpc > Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 > Configured using: > =A0`configure --with-gcc (4.6) --no-opt --enable-checking --cflags > =A0-ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/include > =A0-ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/src > =A0-ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libpng-dev_1.4.3-1/include > =A0-ID:/devel/emacs/libs/zlib-dev_1.2.5-2/include > =A0-ID:/devel/emacs/libs/giflib-4.1.4-1/include > =A0-ID:/devel/emacs/libs/jpeg-6b-4/include > =A0-ID:/devel/emacs/libs/tiff-3.8.2-1/include > =A0-ID:/devel/emacs/libs/gnutls-3.0.9/include > =A0-ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libiconv-1.13.1-1-dev/include > =A0-ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libxml2-2.7.8/include/libxml2' > > > it display cursor as i-beam. > > Are you sure you don't mean the mouse pointer? =A0The cursor (aka text cu= rsor) is > what indicates point, which is where text gets inserted. > > I see the mouse pointer as an I-beam or an arrow, depending on what the m= ouse is > over. =A0But I see the cursor as a box (by default). > > > Then, if i paste this > > (setq cursor-type 'box) > > evaluate it, it has no effect in the display. (but the variable did > > get set, verified with describe-variable) > > See above. =A0My crystal ball is trying to tell me that you are looking a= t the > mouse pointer but setting the text cursor type. > > You change the mouse pointer shape using variable (not an option) > `x-pointer-shape'. =A0But I don't think it is possible to change the poin= ter shape > on MS Windows. =A0See (elisp) `Pointer Shape'. this is very strange. No, it's not mouse pointer. in summery, the problem went away. The cursor is now the normal solid box, even if i load ALL my inits. The problem was happening to GNU Emacs with -Q. Very odd indeed. here's the interesting part. When trying to reproduce this or research this in more detail, i actually renamed my .emacs (even i have no reason to, because i was starting FSF's build of GNU emacs, with -Q, and was reproducible 100%). But anyway, on a whim i renamed my .emacs. Then, the problem never showed up, no matter what i do or from what emacs version, nor showing up when i launch my heavily customized emacs full. i think that guy's blog in my previous post has something to do with it. Certainly a odd problem. Maybe something to do with some lowlevel rendering/display system on Windows. Thanks for all the help. I'll report more if it happens again and i can reproduce it. Xah