From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16216: 24.3.50; entries in `ucs-names' Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 18:09:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1387678217 25332 80.91.229.3 (22 Dec 2013 02:10:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 02:10:17 +0000 (UTC) To: 16216@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 22 03:10:23 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VuYUn-0002fh-JE for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Dec 2013 03:10:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56306 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VuYUm-0000J9-VO for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 21:10:20 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42520) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VuYUc-0000J0-Q8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 21:10:18 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VuYUU-000265-O5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 21:10:10 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:48035) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VuYUU-00025E-Kl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 21:10:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VuYUU-0006GV-73 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 21:10:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 02:10:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 16216 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.138767818824048 (code B ref -1); Sun, 22 Dec 2013 02:10:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Dec 2013 02:09:48 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33821 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VuYUF-0006Fn-Ct for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 21:09:48 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:40765) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VuYUC-0006Fc-GE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 21:09:45 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VuYU4-0001zM-Im for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 21:09:44 -0500 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:43907) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VuYU4-0001zH-FH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 21:09:36 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42476) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VuYTx-0000BL-6o for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 21:09:36 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VuYTq-0001xl-Bi for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 21:09:29 -0500 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:29586) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VuYTq-0001xd-5U for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 21:09:22 -0500 Original-Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id rBM29JIV021956 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 22 Dec 2013 02:09:20 GMT Original-Received: from aserz7022.oracle.com (aserz7022.oracle.com [141.146.126.231]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rBM29ItJ009838 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 22 Dec 2013 02:09:19 GMT Original-Received: from ubhmt103.oracle.com (ubhmt103.oracle.com [156.151.24.8]) by aserz7022.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rBM29Ia2015998 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 2013 02:09:18 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:82381 Archived-At: The doc for `insert-char' and `ucs-names' is sketchy. But it does at least say that it is about inserting a character "using its UNICODE name or its code point." So what are all of those `' character names about? Many characters are listed in `ucs-names' as having this same "character name", `': C-x 8 RET TAB C-g C-h v ucs-names C-s C-s C-s... And yet, AFAICT, there is no UNICODE character that has the name `', or even any name that has that as a substring. http://www.unicode.org/charts/charindex.html The seems like a bug. But since the description of `ucs-names' is so sketchy it's hard to assert that. If this is not a bug, then: 1. In what way is `' a "CHAR-NAME" for a character with any code point? What does CHAR-NAME mean in this case? 2. What is the purpose of the multiple `' CHAR-NAMEs? 3. Why are different CHAR-CODE values associated with the same CHAR-NAME, `'? What does that mean? 4. Try `C-x 8 RET , the one with code point decimal 159. That's the character named "APPLICATION PROGRAM COMMAND". Why that one? In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2013-12-16 on ODIEONE Bzr revision: 115543 rudalics@gmx.at-20131216095844-lbjh5yerk6ff0tm7 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --prefix=3D/c/Devel/emacs/binary --enable-checking=3Dyes,glyphs 'CFLAGS=3D-O0 -g3' LDFLAGS=3D-Lc:/Devel/emacs/lib CPPFLAGS=3D-Ic:/Devel/emacs/include'