From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Ben Wong" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1349: Calc interactive tutorial typo & suggestion Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 22:26:41 -0800 Message-ID: Reply-To: Ben Wong , 1349@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1226739349 5622 80.91.229.12 (15 Nov 2008 08:55:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 08:55:49 +0000 (UTC) To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 15 09:56:47 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1L1GxS-0002hd-Nn for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 15 Nov 2008 09:56:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34978 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1L1GwK-00007D-NO for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 15 Nov 2008 03:55:36 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L1Ez2-00065U-7M for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Nov 2008 01:50:16 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L1Eyz-000653-Su for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Nov 2008 01:50:15 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=43786 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1L1Eyz-00064w-JG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Nov 2008 01:50:13 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:55320) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1L1Eyz-0003D1-6D for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Nov 2008 01:50:13 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id mAF6o80O028864; Fri, 14 Nov 2008 22:50:08 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id mAF6Z3t9024827; Fri, 14 Nov 2008 22:35:03 -0800 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Resent-From: "Ben Wong" Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 06:35:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 1349 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.122673041423483 (code B ref -1); Sat, 15 Nov 2008 06:35:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 15 Nov 2008 06:26:54 +0000 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id mAF6Qo5m023477 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2008 22:26:51 -0800 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L1EcL-0001s2-Ed for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Nov 2008 01:26:49 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L1EcI-0001qu-FF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Nov 2008 01:26:47 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=40396 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1L1EcI-0001qr-Bj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Nov 2008 01:26:46 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-qy0-f17.google.com ([209.85.221.17]:61113) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1L1EcH-00020K-RR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Nov 2008 01:26:46 -0500 Original-Received: by qyk10 with SMTP id 10so135840qyk.18 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2008 22:26:42 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.215.100.1 with SMTP id c1mr1694638qam.113.1226730401575; Fri, 14 Nov 2008 22:26:41 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.214.114.2 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Nov 2008 22:26:41 -0800 (PST) Content-Disposition: inline X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 01:50:15 -0500 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 03:54:58 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:22366 Archived-At: I have two tiny bugs for you, both having to do with returning to Calc's interactive tutorial when switching buffers. The interactive tutorial for calc says to use `C-x * i' to switch back to the tutorial from the calculator. However, that key sequence brings up the main calc info page, which would leave most people lost and frustrated. I believe the correct sequence is `C-x * o'. Specifically, the info file "calc-1", around line 1024, states: "The easiest way to read this tutorial on-line is to have two windows on your Emacs screen, one with Calc and one with the Info system. (If you have a printed copy of the manual you can use that instead.) Press `C-x * c' to turn Calc on or to switch into the Calc window, and press `C-x * i' to start the Info system or to switch into its window. Or, you may prefer to use the tutorial in printed form." I believe that paragraph should read: "The easiest way to read this tutorial on-line is to have two windows on your Emacs screen, one with Calc and one with the Info system. (If you have a printed copy of the manual you can use that instead.) Press `C-x * i' to start the Info system. Press `C-x * c' to turn Calc on or to switch into the Calc window, and press `C-x * o' to switch back to the Info window. Or, you may prefer to use the tutorial in printed form." I also have a second small suggestion for the tutorial. There should be a message at the end of the answer to the first exercise, at least, stating: "If you are using the Emacs Info system, you may press 'l' to return to the last page you were viewing." Currently, the tutorial mentions the 'l' key only in the question section, which goes away when looking at the answer in Info. In GNU Emacs 22.1.1 (mipsel--netbsd) of 2008-05-25 on lily.ziaspace.com configured using `configure '--localstatedir=/var' '--without-gif' '--without-jpeg' '--without-png' '--without-tiff' '--without-x' '--without-xpm' '--prefix=/usr/pkg' '--host=mipsel--netbsd' '--infodir=/usr/pkg/info' '--mandir=/usr/pkg/man' 'host_alias=mipsel--netbsd' 'CC=cc' 'CFLAGS=-O2 -I/usr/include' 'LDFLAGS=-L/usr/lib -Wl,-R/usr/lib -Wl,-R/usr/pkg/lib' 'LIBS=' 'CPPFLAGS=-I/usr/include'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: nil locale-coding-system: nil default-enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Info Minor modes in effect: menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t unify-8859-on-encoding-mode: t utf-translate-cjk-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t Recent input: h t SPC SPC SPC 1 SPC C-x * c C-x * i C-z SPC SPC TAB TAB l SPC C-x * x ESC x r e p o r t - e m a c s - b u g RET Recent messages: Loading easymenu...done Loading info...done Welcome to the GNU Emacs Calculator! Press `?' or `h' for help, `q' to quit Welcome to the Calc Tutorial! C-x * (Type ? for a list of Calc options) Welcome to the GNU Emacs Calculator! Press `?' or `h' for help, `q' to quit C-x * (Type ? for a list of Calc options) [2 times] Loading emacsbug... Loading regexp-opt...done Loading emacsbug...done