Re: Introducing face in comments for various modes

[Heime <heimeborgia@protonmail.com>]

Returning back to the code presented.  Do you know how I could use a generic variable for the different programming languages for the comment character ?  So I won't have to hardwire ";;" inside the regex. 

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On Monday, December 12th, 2022 at 12:17 PM, Thibaut Verron <thibaut.verron@gmail.com> wrote:


> On 12/12/2022 12:55, Heime wrote:
> 
> > ------- Original Message -------
> > On Monday, December 12th, 2022 at 10:50 AM, Thibaut Verron thibaut.verron@gmail.com wrote:
> > 
> > > On 12/12/2022 11:20, Heime wrote:
> > > 
> > > > ------- Original Message -------
> > > > On Monday, December 12th, 2022 at 9:58 AM, Thibaut Verronthibaut.verron@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > On 12/12/2022 10:21, Heime wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > ------- Original Message -------
> > > > > > On Monday, December 12th, 2022 at 8:49 AM, Thibaut Verron
> > > > > > thibaut.verron@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Le lun. 12 déc. 2022 à 04:01, Heimeheimeborgia@protonmail.com a
> > > > > > > écrit :
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > ------- Original Message -------
> > > > > > > On Monday, December 12th, 2022 at 2:24 AM, Heime
> > > > > > > heimeborgia@protonmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > The colors of the standard themes are chosen with its (light)
> > > > > > > > background in mind. If you change that background, it is not
> > > > > > > > surprising that things fall apart.
> > > > > > > > Choosing colours with a light background in mind is the wrong approach
> > > > > > > > because colours produce far greater visual
> > > > > > > > impact.
> > > > > > > > There is no right or wrong approach, but individual preferences.
> > > > > > > > Standard metrics exist. The Gnu Project like many others, does not
> > > > > > > > want to use them.
> > > > > > > > You're moving the goalpost: the sentence I quoted claimed that "focusing
> > > > > > > > on a light background is the wrong approach".
> > > > > > > > Having worked with modus-themes, it was concluded that there exist greater
> > > > > > > > variations in possibilities with a dark background that with a light one.
> 
> 
> Great for themes with a black background.
> 
> That doesn't make it "wrong" for a theme to have a light background.
> 
> > > It's already bad enough now with some packages defining their own faces
> > > without at least inheriting from the standard ones.
> > > Right. My focus has been to provide colours with good metrics so that
> > > people inherit from the standard ones.
> 
> 
> That's called designing a theme. Aka the current approach. Which you
> have been arguing is wrong.
> 
> > > There are currently 5330 packages on Melpa. Do you plan to contact the
> > > authors of all of them individually to get them to implement your
> > > preferred colors?
> > > To start using actual standards. Absolutely, they should learn more and change
> > > their packages.
> 
> 
> Great. Good luck with that.
> 
> On the other hand, the current recommended approach is to inherit from
> existing faces and let theme designers (or users, if they choose to)
> populate those with suitable colors.
> 
> No need for package developers to implement standards, no need to learn
> about theme design, no need to change things to accommodate for
> user-preferred colors, and if you have a problem, only one bug report to
> file -- with the theme.
> 
> > > > > You shouldn't think of themes as "fixing the default choices"
> > > > > (especially considering that you are the one "breaking" them by
> > > > > insisting to use them with a background they weren't designed for).
> > > > > Their purpose is to implement different choices in a consistent way.
> > > > > Good design in much more important that consistency.
> > > > > It's also much easier to achieve in a consistent system.
> > > > > The argument is to design separately for light and also for dark background.
> > > > > Emacs does have light and dark checks.
> 
> 
> That's again, moving the point.
> 
> Yes, Emacs does have those checks, but it's just a different way of
> providing two themes for light and dark backgrounds. If done for full
> themes, it's only a formal change, between two separate theme
> definitions, or one with interleaved conditionals.
> 
> If done for only a subset of faces, leaving the others untouched, it's a
> poor-person's way to try to accommodate everything, but it's imperfect
> and it might be unreadable on themes which are far from the standard
> white or black (not to mention terminal users). For that use-case, it is
> usually preferred to find an existing face to inherit from, trusting the
> theme designers for this face to be rendered in a readable way.
>