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[84.240.106.35]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h65-v6sm1238285wmf.7.2018.06.04.13.18.36 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 04 Jun 2018 13:18:37 -0700 (PDT) Content-Language: en-US X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c0c::235 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:226011 Archived-At: Hi, Sorry for the rambling explanation for a fairly simple thing. If you wish me to just get to the point, please skip to the last paragraph. Otherwise, here are some details and background. The etc/emacs.appdata.xml file in the GNU Emacs sources refers to a screenshot [1] that seems to be hosted as part of the GNU Emacs web site. This image can get displayed by various things that can offer a computer user to install GNU Emacs. Of the software I am currently aware of, this includes Gnome Software [2] and the Flathub web page [3]. The screenshot in the address at [1] does not currently fully conform to the guidelines [4] provided for Appdata screenshots: - The aspect ratio is close to but not exactly 16:9 - Window borders are not shown - Content in the window is rather "empty" Additionally the screenshot is rather small, just barely within spec. The "teaser" screenshot [5] shown on the GNU Emacs main web page is a lot better fit, but also there we have some issues which could be improved for Appdata screenshot use: - Aspect ratio again - Shadows around the window borders - Version number 26.0.50 is displayed I think that addressing these would be a good thing in general, but then there is something that might help specifically with an issue that I am working on. There is currently an issue with the Flathub web site that makes it not display a screenshot at all for Emacs [6]. It is suspected that this is because a scaling algorithm crops some content from the sides to exactly hit the 16:9 aspect ratio, and then the width of the screenshot drops below the 620 pixel minimum. I am not sure if this is actually the cause of this issue, but this is just what drew my attention to this screenshot. I think Emacs would benefit from updating that Appdata screenshot, regardless of if it addresses that flathub issue that I wish to have resolved. If I take a new screenshot of GNU Emacs 26.1 in its default settings, and basically make it very similar to the "teaser" picture [5] but following the screenshot guidelines [4], could it be installed either to the old URL [1] or next to the old one with e.g. a name like appdata-26? Thanks, - Joonas [1] https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/images/appdata.png [2] https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Software [3] https://flathub.org/apps/details/org.gnu.emacs [4] https://www.freedesktop.org/software/appstream/docs/chap-Quickstart.html [5] https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/images/teaser.png [6] https://github.com/flathub/org.gnu.emacs/issues/1