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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 18637@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#18637: 24.4.50; doc of frame parameter DISPLAY vs actual value on MS Windows
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 10:25:31 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c75b3094-d24b-4949-9c1e-b513c0b5bed7@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <<837g0dm95c.fsf@gnu.org>>

> > > In any case, "multiple monitors" and "multiple displays" are 2
> > > different issues.  Each display can have multiple monitors.
> >
> > OK.  Where can one find doc about using multiple monitors with
> > Emacs?
> 
> There's nothing to document: they are treated as just one large
> monitor.  The only functions we have are in that node you mentioned.
>
> > > > I was not able to find out how to obtain info about which
> > > > monitor is being used to show a particular frame
> > >
> > > The functions you mentioned provide that info, or maybe I don't
> > > understand what info are you looking for.q
> >
> > Which function tells you what monitor is showing a given frame (on
> > MS Windows)?
> 
> frame-monitor-attributes, if I understand what you want.

I see that that function returns some information about (attributes
of) the monitor that is most associated with the argument frame.  And
I see that one of the attributes is `name'.   Presumably, monitors
would be distinguished by this parameter.

However, it is an optional parameter, so I can't imagine that one can
count on it to distinguish monitors.  (Just why is it optional?)
If one cannot count on `name', how is the identity of monitors
determined?  Do you just go by the particular cons of attributes
that is returned by `frame-monitor-attributes'?

Also, FWIW, I don't see, in the doc, where the meanings of those
attributes are specified.  The doc for `display-monitor-attributes'
supposedly does that, but it says nothing about what the "Position",
for `geometry' and `workarea', is relative to.  And it says nothing
about what those attributes mean.

I can guess the meaning for `geometry' here, being somewhat familiar
with X window `geometry' specs, but there should be some mention or
xref to the meaning/use of `geometry' outside Emacs, or else this
parameter is unspecified in terms of its meaning or effect.

And I cannot guess at all for `workarea'.  What is it?  How does/can
it differ from `geometry'?

> > > > The symptom reported was that by modifying a frame's
> > > > parameters to restore its previous values of `top', `left',
> > > > `width' and `height', the frame got moved to another monitor,
> > > > for some reason.
> > >
> > > Probably because the pixel coordinates mapped to that other
> > > monitor, the URL above explains that, among other things.
> >
> > I appreciate your replies and your trying to help, but I don't
> > quite understand you here.  The URL you cite introduces a long
> > chapter.
> 
> Read it and its sections.  You will find the information you want
> there.  Skip whatever sounds not relevant or too low-level, and keep
> reading. Read the MSDN documentation I pointed to, the answers are there.
> 
> If, after that, you still don't understand what could go wrong with
> your code, come back and ask more specific questions with specific
> code snippets.  Right now, what you write and ask just shows how
> much of the background you are missing to start reasoning about this.
> 
> The issues are not complicated once you understand how Windows
> treats multiple monitors.

OK.





       reply	other threads:[~2014-10-06 17:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <<b5ac6ce3-5c0d-4517-a44f-6925cfccdcfd@default>
     [not found] ` <<837g0dm95c.fsf@gnu.org>
2014-10-06 17:25   ` Drew Adams [this message]
2014-10-05 19:23     ` bug#18637: 24.4.50; doc of frame parameter DISPLAY vs actual value on MS Windows Drew Adams
2014-10-05 19:30       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-05 19:44         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-06 18:08       ` Andy Moreton
2014-10-06 18:23         ` Drew Adams
2014-10-07 18:35       ` Andy Moreton
2014-10-07 20:25         ` Drew Adams
2014-10-06 19:29     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-06 20:52     ` Drew Adams
2014-10-07 15:14       ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found] <<c75b3094-d24b-4949-9c1e-b513c0b5bed7@default>
     [not found] ` <<ce89167f-4906-496e-9ace-4d51e1741311@default>
     [not found]   ` <<83tx3flxn2.fsf@gnu.org>
2014-10-07 18:12     ` Drew Adams
2014-10-07 18:26       ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]     ` <<41484edb-9aaa-4f56-bf46-4ab70b609aac@default>
     [not found]       ` <<8361fvlos0.fsf@gnu.org>
2014-10-07 18:31         ` Drew Adams
     [not found] <<b3d0f532-3b29-43d3-a41d-6687886307dc@default>
     [not found] ` <<83ppe5mfed.fsf@gnu.org>
2014-10-06 16:31   ` Drew Adams
2014-10-06 16:54     ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found] <<12fc196e-cc82-4f22-8d2f-cede95542ea7@default>
     [not found] ` <<83vbnymi0h.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]   ` <<83tx3imhdg.fsf@gnu.org>
2014-10-06  2:55     ` Drew Adams
2014-10-06 14:39       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-06 16:34         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-06  2:55   ` Drew Adams

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