From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: jester@panix.com (Jesse Sheidlower) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Semi-OT: font advice Date: 22 Apr 2004 11:00:14 -0400 Organization: Oxford University Press Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1082653151 11063 80.91.224.253 (22 Apr 2004 16:59:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 16:59:11 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 22 18:59:05 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BGhXV-0001yL-00 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2004 18:59:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BGfvo-0001Go-Cd for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 22 Apr 2004 11:16:04 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!panix!panix2.panix.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 45 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: panix2.panix.com Original-X-Trace: reader2.panix.com 1082646014 12099 166.84.1.2 (22 Apr 2004 15:00:14 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 15:00:14 +0000 (UTC) Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:122570 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:17865 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:17865 I recently got a new computer, and the monitor's resolution at 1400 x 1050 is such that the default font, which seems to be "-adobe-courier-medium-r-normal--12-120-75-75-m-70-iso8859-1", is too small to comfortably read. I am trying to find a font that is better but am having trouble working with the fonts, and would appreciate some advice. The fonts I can choose from Shift-Mouse-1 are generally either too small to be comfortably legible, or too large to fit happily in a window. For example the "9x15" font, which is "-Misc-Fixed-Medium-R-Normal--15-140-75-75-C-90-ISO8859-1", is a good shape but too large for seeing good chunks of programs. I very much like the shape of the "fixed" font, which is "-Misc-Fixed-Medium-R-SemiCondensed--13-120-75-75-C-60-ISO8859-1", but it's way too small, yet I don't seem to have a larger version of this available. The font I have in my terminal window isn't bad, but I don't know what it is in terms of the "-*-*-" form--I'm running Gnome, and it's chosen from a menu as being in the "Monospace" family, regular, 11 pt. I guess my biggest problem is that I don't know how to browse the fonts on my system from within Emacs in a way that shows me what they really look like and what their formal names are. I've read through the Wiki and other places and don't really know what to try next. Any advice, either for a specific font or for ways to better browse what I have? I'm happy to install any fonts on my system. Another thing is that when I do specify a font in my .emacs with something like (set-face-font 'default "-Misc-Fixed-Medium-R-Normal--15-140-75-75-C-90-ISO8859-1") I then can't run Emacs in a terminal window (i.e. starting up with "emacs -nw")--I get a error "Error in init file: error: "X windows are not in use or not initialized"". Assuming I do eventually find a nice font, how do I use it in X without screwing up my non-X sessions? Thanks very much. I'm running GNU Emacs 21.3.1, if that matters. Jesse Sheidlower