From: "John S. Yates, Jr." <john@yates-sheets.org>
Subject: theming (was: Sorting of directories in dired)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 06:53:22 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c61qc1p53mnb9rqsgtlvae5krnjba9k7gl@4ax.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2irzn3tqx.fsf@roisin.local>
On Thu, 07 Jul 2005 01:28:22 -0700, Edward O'Connor wrote:
>Here's one vote for leaving the default as it is. I love how Emacs
>is a consistent environment across the various operating systems it
>runs on, and would much prefer it for the default Dired behavior to
>continue to be the same across all supported systems.
With all of RMS's push to get the current, little-used theme code
debugged and integrated I keep feeling that it simply will not
address what I intuitively feel a theme concept should provide.
Edward's comment quoted above provides a perfect case in point.
Historically, the Emacs community has provided default behavior
that catered to its entrenched userbase. The answer to nearly
any suggestion that such behavior might be awkward / unfamiliar /
jarring to new users, especially those on platforms held in low
regard by the entrenched userbase, is that Emacs is customizable.
Essentially a "Let them eat cake" attitude. The learning curve
and shear volume of customization needed to make Emacs feel
comfortable to a new Windows user (who may very well some day
in the future run Emacs on *nix, but today has no interest in
investing effort in such a potentiality) is daunting.
My notion of a theme is not a named collection of configuration
settings. Rather it is an expression of high-level intent:
- as much as possible behave like Window / MacOS / *nix
- underline clickable links
- give me single frame behavior vs something like Drew's OneOnOne
This is not unprecedented. There already seems to be a bit of
this kind of mindset in the attempt to provide light-on-dark and
dark-on-light default faces.
/john
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-07-07 10:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-07-06 23:58 Sorting of directories in dired Lennart Borgman
2005-07-07 0:13 ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-07-07 6:49 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-07-07 8:02 ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-07-07 8:28 ` Edward O'Connor
2005-07-07 10:11 ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-07-07 12:24 ` David Kastrup
2005-07-07 10:53 ` John S. Yates, Jr. [this message]
2005-07-07 12:17 ` theming Lennart Borgman
2005-07-07 13:31 ` theming Juanma Barranquero
2005-07-07 13:50 ` theming Lennart Borgman
2005-07-07 14:00 ` theming Juanma Barranquero
2005-07-07 14:24 ` theming Lennart Borgman
2005-07-07 17:36 ` theming Drew Adams
2005-07-08 4:36 ` theming Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-08 11:05 ` theming John S. Yates, Jr.
2005-07-07 12:22 ` theming (was: Sorting of directories in dired) David Reitter
2005-07-07 14:20 ` theming David Kastrup
2005-07-08 12:38 ` theming David Reitter
2005-07-08 14:27 ` theming Stefan Monnier
2005-07-08 22:01 ` theming Richard M. Stallman
[not found] ` <m1DqbHY-0004RAC@rattlesnake.com>
2005-07-07 18:59 ` theming (was: Sorting of directories in dired) David Reitter
2005-07-07 19:11 ` David Reitter
2005-07-10 5:19 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-10 5:19 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-07 20:37 ` Sorting of directories in dired Eli Zaretskii
2005-07-08 1:12 ` Bill Wohler
2005-07-07 16:43 ` Drew Adams
2005-07-07 21:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-07-07 20:35 ` Drew Adams
2005-07-07 22:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-07-07 22:53 ` Drew Adams
2005-07-08 10:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-07-08 17:40 ` Richard M. Stallman
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