From: Francis Moreau <francis.moro@gmail.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Moving from Thunderbird to Emacs for mail and calendar
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 05:06:16 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c60d0301-59f2-4348-8b5a-dcf4fd937c32@k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.6268.1252464957.2239.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
On Sep 9, 4:55 am, Bastien <bastiengue...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Jeff Clough <j...@chaosphere.com> writes:
> > Okay, so I'm seriously considering switching from Thunderbird to Emacs
> > (under Windows XP) for my mail and calendar needs, but I haven't used
> > Emacs for either of these purposes in so long I don't know if it's
> > feasible, nor am I certain which modes are "best". I'm hoping that some
> > of you can point me in the right direction. I'd "just do it" as a test,
> > but I'd rather not go through a crap ton of hassle and problems only to
> > hear later "You should not have used foo mode for that, bar mode is what
> > you want".
>
> Check Gnus and Org.
>
> http://gnus.org/manual.htmlhttp://orgmode.org/
>
> > 1. It needs to work on Windows XP without having to install a
> > unix/posix environment like Cygwin. I *am* willing to install discrete
> > utilities if necessary (if Emacs doesn't do POP on its own and needs
> > some external program to do it, for instance).
>
> AFAIK Emacs + Gnus works fine under Windows.
>
> > 2. I have just under seven thousand messages in various folders (mbox
> > files) that I'll be wanting to keep, so it needs to not choke and die
> > when confronted with "many" messages.
>
> It's okay.
>
Well, what do you mean by 'okay' ?
Opening huge groups (> 1000 articles) is just slow with Gnus, really.
Fetching the headers, sorting and displaying the articles by using the
thread view. takes years. It's like Gnus is using some O(n2) algos.
Doing the same thing with thunderbird is incredibly faster.
Another important drawback, is that since gnus is written in elisp, it
doesn't have any multithread support in it. So if you're doing some
actions that take a while (and there are, news/mail server can be
slow), the whole emacs process (where gnus is running) is just stuck.
Don't get me wrong, I use GNUS (maybe because I spent so much time in
it, I don't want to admit I was wrong ;) but you must be ready to
spent some time to configure it and to adopt it and I'm wondering if
it really worth the trouble specially if the OP is not interested in
news group...
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Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-09-08 23:33 Moving from Thunderbird to Emacs for mail and calendar Jeff Clough
2009-09-09 2:55 ` Bastien
2009-09-09 9:45 ` Tassilo Horn
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2009-09-09 10:08 ` Torsten Mueller
2009-09-09 12:00 ` Andreas Politz
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2009-09-09 12:40 ` Torsten Mueller
2009-09-09 15:39 ` Andreas Politz
[not found] ` <4AA7B21C.4000008@chaosphere.com>
2009-09-09 14:35 ` Bastien
2009-09-09 15:28 ` Jeff Clough
2009-09-09 22:25 ` Bastien
2009-09-09 17:55 ` Jeff Clough
[not found] ` <mailman.6308.1252506039.2239.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2009-09-09 14:35 ` Richard Riley
2009-09-09 15:48 ` Jeff Clough
[not found] ` <mailman.6321.1252511354.2239.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2009-09-10 5:17 ` Jason Rumney
2009-09-10 5:12 ` Jason Rumney
[not found] ` <mailman.6268.1252464957.2239.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2009-09-09 3:12 ` notbob
2009-09-09 7:18 ` Sébastien Vauban
2009-09-09 8:27 ` ken
2009-09-09 10:06 ` Andreas Politz
[not found] ` <mailman.6288.1252484861.2239.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2009-09-09 9:59 ` Sébastien Vauban
2009-09-09 23:31 ` ken
[not found] ` <mailman.6339.1252539077.2239.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2009-09-09 23:59 ` Richard Riley
2009-10-12 12:06 ` Francis Moreau [this message]
2009-10-12 12:47 ` Jeff Clough
[not found] ` <mailman.8593.1255351673.2239.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2009-10-12 12:56 ` Richard Riley
2009-10-12 13:40 ` Francis Moreau
2009-10-12 16:51 ` Richard Riley
2009-10-12 17:12 ` Andreas Politz
2009-10-13 13:29 ` Jeff Clough
[not found] ` <mailman.8683.1255440588.2239.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2009-10-13 13:58 ` Richard Riley
2009-10-13 15:33 ` Jeff Clough
[not found] ` <mailman.8686.1255448028.2239.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2009-10-13 16:20 ` Richard Riley
2009-10-13 17:13 ` Jeff Clough
2009-10-13 17:51 ` Memnon Anon
2009-10-13 18:17 ` Matt Lundin
[not found] ` <mailman.8690.1255454017.2239.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2009-10-13 17:32 ` rustom
2009-10-13 17:40 ` Richard Riley
2009-10-13 17:35 ` Richard Riley
2009-10-13 19:31 ` Ted Zlatanov
2009-10-15 19:59 ` Francis Moreau
2009-10-16 14:26 ` Richard Riley
2009-10-16 19:23 ` Francis Moreau
[not found] <mailman.6252.1252454441.2239.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2009-09-13 1:06 ` Dave Täht
2009-10-12 2:11 ` Anyone gone from mutt to Emacs? was: " David Combs
2009-10-25 13:12 ` Dave Täht
2009-10-27 12:03 ` Francis Moreau
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