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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:309996 Archived-At: --4c019f2b0b3841b2b1c8211a8fcd7db9 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > All I did was to follow up on a suggested path and study technical ways > to getting Clojure editing support in Emacs, better than what we have > now, which is 0. I think is a pretty reasonable thing to do on > emacs-devel. It's not an immoral thing to do and I'm not coming for H= is > Highness The Great Clojure Authority Life's Work. Joao, I've tried to be polite, but you behave like a total jerk right no= w. That's really disappointing as you used to be one of my Emacs heroes = for a very long time. That makes me very sad. Such attitude alienates a = lot of people from emacs-devel IMO.=20 Eli, I hope you'll agree that such attitude is really counter-productive= .=20 On Sun, Sep 3, 2023, at 5:46 PM, Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora wrote: > Alan Mackenzie writes: >=20 > > And even if Emacs were to develop its own competing Clojure mode (wh= ich I > > say it should not), it MUST have a name of its own and not create >=20 > Eli has already stated very clearly this is a non-issue, stating -- > quite accurately -- that noone who speaks for the Emacs project has > suggested it. Earlier I had said clearly I don't care and it's not up > to me. If it _were_ up to me -- which again it's not -- up I would > pursue a technical solution. >=20 > So no need to freak out really. >=20 > All I did was to follow up on a suggested path and study technical ways > to getting Clojure editing support in Emacs, better than what we have > now, which is 0. I think is a pretty reasonable thing to do on > emacs-devel. It's not an immoral thing to do and I'm not coming for H= is > Highness The Great Clojure Authority Life's Work. >=20 > Jo=C3=A3o >=20 >=20 --4c019f2b0b3841b2b1c8211a8fcd7db9 Content-Type: text/html;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
All I did was to follow up on a suggeste= d path and study technical ways
to getting Clojure editing= support in Emacs, better than what we have
now, which is = 0.  I think is a pretty reasonable thing to do on
ema= cs-devel.  It's not an immoral thing to do and I'm not coming for H= is
Highness The Great Clojure Authority Life's Work.

Joao, I've tried to be polite, but = you behave like a total jerk right now. That's really disappointing as y= ou used to be one of my Emacs heroes for a very long time. That makes me= very sad. Such attitude alienates a lot of people from emacs-devel IMO.=

Eli, I hope you'll agree that such attitu= de is really counter-productive.

On Sun, S= ep 3, 2023, at 5:46 PM, Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora wrote:
Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> writes:

> And even if Emacs were to develop its own competing Clojure mode= (which I
> say it should not), it MUST have a name of = its own and not create

Eli has already stat= ed very clearly this is a non-issue, stating --
quite accu= rately -- that noone who speaks for the Emacs project has
= suggested it.  Earlier I had said clearly I don't care and it's not= up
to me.  If it _were_ up to me -- which again it's= not -- up I would
pursue a technical solution.
<= div>
So no need to freak out really.

All I did was to follow up on a suggested path and study technic= al ways
to getting Clojure editing support in Emacs, bette= r than what we have
now, which is 0.  I think is a pr= etty reasonable thing to do on
emacs-devel.  It's not= an immoral thing to do and I'm not coming for His
Highnes= s The Great Clojure Authority Life's Work.

= Jo=C3=A3o



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