From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Carsten Dominik Subject: Re: an annoying indentation Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 09:50:11 +0200 Message-ID: References: <466ED55E.1070804@calicojack.co.uk> <3a39e8471057cbbd01a7dca42cdc3d39@science.uva.nl> <20070614105700.46b2b82d@CNDLS-3T02621> <28563.1181833352@lap1.smtl.co.uk> <46716216.8010701@calicojack.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hz6ZO-0003sN-SR for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 03:50:10 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hz6ZN-0003sB-97 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 03:50:09 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hz6ZN-0003s8-4S for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 03:50:09 -0400 Received: from korteweg.uva.nl ([146.50.98.70]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Hz6ZM-00045P-MP for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 03:50:08 -0400 In-Reply-To: <46716216.8010701@calicojack.co.uk> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Rick Moynihan Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org On Jun 14, 2007, at 17:43, Rick Moynihan wrote: > pete phillips wrote: >>>>>>> "John" == John Rakestraw writes: >> John> In response to which, Leo wrote: >> >> I think '- item 3' still should be aligned to '- item 2'. If >> user >> >> want to move the item deeper, 'M-right' can be used. >> >> John> I agree with Leo -- or, rather, his proposal matches >> more nicely the >> John> way I work. I often have lists with some items annotated and >> John> others not annotated -- >> I agree with John and Leo. Pete > > Given that my initial suggestion of multiple TAB presses goes against > the Emacs grain, I'm also in favour of John of Leo as my lists aren't > structured in a way consistent with Carsten's proposal. Maybe not really against Emacs grain, but it is certainly not common to have such a command. In fact, we have one, C-a, if turned on with org-special-control-a. The problem I am seeing really is that the structure of a list in org-mode is *defined* by indentation. So there is no clean way to have TAB automatically do the right thing, certainly not with indent-region. So all this discussion can be about is what a sensible default can be - and you will have to create the structure yourself anyway. In this way, I am now tending to agree that a flat list default makes sense. - Carsten