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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:210913 Archived-At: On Wed, December 28, 2016 5:19 pm, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> I notice whether indentation is made from tabs, spaces or a mix becaus= e >> I >> use whitespace.el to highlight them (and some other whitespace > > That's one example of "something wrong". > > > There might be cases where the difference is important and it's hence > valuable to use whitespace.el to help you avoid problems, but your life > will be more pleasant when you stop worrying about those details when > they don't matter. Probably true. I switched whitespace on, because I noticed in my own projects that my whitespace handling was very messy and this caused diffing issues. I just never got around to fiddling with my whitespace.el configuration to switch it off for Emacs. Probably never will, now; wouldn't recognize Emacs source without the occasional fluorescent yellow tab, which is the colour I use. It doesn't both me overly, although to stop worrying about details which are not important, you have to know which ones are important. You've corrected my patches for indentation several times (which I've always bee= n grateful for). Some projects are extremely picky on whitespace. Hence, my conclusion: if tooling support could be added to incrementally approach convergence, that would not be a bad thing. But it's not worth worrying about excessively. I will leave it there! Phil