From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John ff Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2024 23:12:33 +0100 Message-ID: References: <875xto7lbn.fsf@dancol.org> <86ed8ce2mh.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <81b620d7-18a6-4c6e-8517-147a411ee882@gutov.dev> <67c493f5-8f12-416a-bf6f-0831ab0687a9@gutov.dev> <87cynucuhp.fsf@dancol.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----SPM102TLEHXU79MG3QW2WJCZYJBYG9" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33689"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Android Cc: Yuri Khan , Stefan Monnier , Dmitry Gutov ,Juri Linkov , Stefan Kangas ,emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Daniel Colascione Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 04 00:14:50 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sP8FV-0008V5-Sd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2024 00:14:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sP8El-0007wt-1h; Wed, 03 Jul 2024 18:14:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sP8Ej-0007tS-AV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Jul 2024 18:14:01 -0400 Original-Received: from codemist.co.uk ([217.155.197.248]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sP8Eh-0001Ty-CY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Jul 2024 18:14:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [172.16.4.31] by codemist.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.97.1) (envelope-from ) id 1sP8Ea-000000005tx-0anM; Wed, 03 Jul 2024 23:13:52 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87cynucuhp.fsf@dancol.org> X-Referenced-Uid: 268628 Thread-Topic: Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove X-Is-Generated-Message-Id: true X-ACL-Warn: No reverse lookup Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.155.197.248; envelope-from=jpff@codemist.co.uk; helo=codemist.co.uk X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:321288 Archived-At: ------SPM102TLEHXU79MG3QW2WJCZYJBYG9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 mlllm/(l =E2=81=A3=E2=80=8B On 3 Jul 2024, 17:27, at 17:27, Daniel Colasc= ione wrote: >Yuri Khan = writes: > >> On Wed, 3 Jul 2024 at 20:53, Stefan Monnier > wrote: >>> >>> > At that point, the and keys no >longer >>> > make sense, because, clearly, buffers are= arranged in a vertical >list >>> > rather than a horizontal strip=2E >>> >= >> AFAIK these commands cycle through the list of buffers, so I think >of i= t >>> as a circle, and I'd rather use keys like and >>> =2E >> >> You probably said that in jest, but there are in fact= many keyboards >> that feature rotary encoders that can emit key or mouse = events when >> turned, and people do configure those to switch tabs in brow= sers, >> among other uses=2E (On the wire, it still looks like Ctrl+PgUp an= d >> Ctrl+PgDn, because that=E2=80=99s what browsers and editors expect=2E)= > >Yeah=2E I've been meaning to hook up a https://monogramcc=2Ecom/ to Ema= cs >for a while now=2E There'd be something viscerally satisfying about >g= oing >back and forth in undo history using that large rotary dial=2E Sadly= , no >Linux drivers yet=2E :-( ------SPM102TLEHXU79MG3QW2WJCZYJBYG9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
mlllm/(l
On 3 Jul 2024, at 17:27, Daniel Col= ascione <dancol= @dancol=2Eorg> wrote:
Yuri Khan <yuri=2Ev=2Ekhan@gmail=2Ecom=
> writes:

On We= d, 3 Jul 2024 at 20:53, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro=2Eumontreal=2Eca>= wrote:

At that point, the <prefix> &l= t;left> and <prefix> <right> keys no longer
make sense, = because, clearly, buffers are arranged in a vertical list
rather than a= horizontal strip=2E

AFAIK these commands cycle throug= h the list of buffers, so I think of it
as a circle, and I'd rather use= keys like <clockwise> and
<counter-clockwise>=2E

You probably said that in jest, but there are in fact many keyb= oards
that feature rotary encoders that can emit key or mouse events wh= en
turned, and people do configure those to switch tabs in browsers, among other uses=2E (On the wire, it still looks like Ctrl+PgUp and
C= trl+PgDn, because that=E2=80=99s what browsers and editors expect=2E)

Yeah=2E I've been meaning to hook up a https://monogramcc=2Ecom/ to Emacs
for a while now= =2E There'd be something viscerally satisfying about going
back and for= th in undo history using that large rotary dial=2E Sadly, no
Linux driv= ers yet=2E :-(

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