From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Jason A. Spiro" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: bug#4960: 23.1.50; Please provide access to the tour on the Help menu; preferably ship it also Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:15:32 -0500 Message-ID: Reply-To: "Jason A. 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Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id nAJ3Fwha005213 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:15:59 -0800 Original-Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:37379 helo=mx10.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NAxUz-0007fz-Ov for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:15:57 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NAxUx-0000wF-4E for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:15:57 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-px0-f192.google.com ([209.85.216.192]:38099) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NAxUw-0000vv-Ov for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:15:55 -0500 Original-Received: by pxi30 with SMTP id 30so1197216pxi.14 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:15:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=DgbD3/xF69zQEOVQj+v5mfjM/6qewthBXZJcbzG9LR8=; b=ASXMGqa7sVuBjzXRmh4Zr8Apdm3Df2X5OxcwO3adMGhAdc/MbDENGOqgDKS7p06kpw 8cvy9U/cMNAvNHQs9BorB8ENXLfKFJwiidyh3zg2zWSxxjtY6QMKKepNLyFVKyqFZDTP YqH53+dChnVzJ+ipZoqwN6K9W546W8NeE7AVs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; b=Eu0U/j6T+8XRdhWopSf2cqGcQnIrf/IMjXdlBkPplVeyIuR3XHUeza4rIkDseUWs9v exjj9F6AkQISoUiFa4+ExQNmJBy7KkQ0EhyUQpCv8V7zmmPwVup9JAr5e8kTunZpYxrb hJdgBiiDZwuJ+BoCtPefPtOI5XeNDO3nq3FpI= Original-Received: by 10.140.178.16 with SMTP id a16mr685045rvf.278.1258600552785; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:15:52 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Sender-Auth: 90d381776b8c97e9 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:27:28 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:32695 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:25204 Archived-At: Hi, Please provide access to the Emacs guided tour on the Emacs' Help menu. Preferably as the first item on the menu, since it is more useful than the tutorial. Preferably by shipping the full tour as part of Emacs, and providing shortcuts to launch it, like the Lisp code for XEmacs at http://ftp.xemacs.org/pub/xemacs/beta/experimental/packages/guided-tour-0.52-pkg.tar.gz does. Or you can ship a text version of the tour, perhaps produced by the "lynx -dump" command or some HTML-to-text converter as part of your build procedure; but make sure to tack on a message at the beginning telling users how to get to the full version on the Web. Thanks in advance, -Jason In GNU Emacs 23.1.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2009-10-15 on LENNART-69DE564 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 -- Jason Spiro: software/web developer, packager, trainer, IT consultant. I support Linux, UNIX, Windows, and more. Contact me to discuss your needs. +1 (416) 992-3445 / www.jspiro.com