From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Jason Spiro" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Shipping the illustrated tutorial with Emacs 22? (was: Re: evangelizing Emacs with a graphical tutorial) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 19:56:15 -0500 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1172031112 5463 80.91.229.12 (21 Feb 2007 04:11:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 04:11:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 21 05:11:45 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HJipU-0004zI-TT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 21 Feb 2007 05:11:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HJipU-0003T5-7x for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 20 Feb 2007 23:11:44 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HJfmM-0001jG-5z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Feb 2007 19:56:18 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HJfmK-0001j4-Uu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Feb 2007 19:56:17 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HJfmK-0001j1-RG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Feb 2007 19:56:16 -0500 Original-Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.245]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1HJfmK-0006dl-CX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Feb 2007 19:56:16 -0500 Original-Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b8so486181ana for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:56:16 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=mM8f1dWhRJKGJ7gvx5lHRNQeBMnGTEYhQELcq9WKUNDpPcWUlhTRaM2192qbAdF4gBrByxDUMSe0zaDr/aD1tkYWl1Qk6lNbaw8wGGyIYzivp8QuYlzZnMLPgXzLSX2Su1BWV7T9EzjqSLprfHZqJHjJLu5YF54GCZ85zZv2msI= Original-Received: by 10.115.89.1 with SMTP id r1mr3580251wal.1172019375411; Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:56:15 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.114.72.13 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:56:15 -0800 (PST) Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2e4ae117565e756f X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 23:10:57 -0500 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:66567 Archived-At: 2007/1/30, Richard Stallman : > None. Perhaps we can get the tutorial released into the public domain > so we can ship it with Emacs? > > If you tell me the name and email address of its author, I will ask him > to make it free. (It is not necessary that it be in the public domain.) It seems to now be GFDLed. The guy who wrote the tutorial must be honored that you wrote to him. :-) It's unfortunate that this advanced tutorial won't become accessible by a menu item until Emacs 23, it seems. :-( It seems to me a very valuable yet enjoyable-to-read bit of help for users, especially because of the illustrations. (AFAIK, the emacs manual is not illustrated.) But could it be added to the etc/ directory of emacs CVS? And perhaps the 2nd and third sets of slides too, even though they're really advanced-user sorts of tutorials. And could it be mentioned on the Emacs splash screen? Cheers, Jason -- Jason Spiro: computer consulting with a smile. I also provide training and spyware removal services for homes and businesses. Call or email for a FREE 5-minute consultation. Satisfaction guaranteed. +1 (416) 781-5938 / Email: info@jspiro.com / MSN: jasonspiro@hotmail.com